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    Quote Originally Posted by WrenElessedil View Post
    While I know this is a troll topic, if there's no way to know how those mechanics work, how would there be guides for them in the first place?
    The only trolls are the people who are saying there are visual indicators for everything. No there isn't. The people who made the guides probably used DBM so they know where to stand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaver1236 View Post
    The only trolls are the people who are saying there are visual indicators for everything. No there isn't. The people who made the guides probably used DBM so they know where to stand.
    If you want, it's a troll, but there are still visual indicators and it's hard to miss if you concentrate a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    If you want, it's a troll, but there are still visual indicators and it's hard to miss if you concentrate a bit.
    lol Not everyone who doesn't think like you is a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenitey View Post
    lol Not everyone who doesn't think like you is a troll.
    No the OP is definitely a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenitey View Post
    lol Not everyone who doesn't think like you is a troll.
    so you're part of the troll, too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaver1236 View Post
    The only trolls are the people who are saying there are visual indicators for everything. No there isn't. The people who made the guides probably used DBM so they know where to stand.
    https://youtu.be/jZ-D9UwgUlU [Insert DBM alert here]
    Quote Originally Posted by Reaver1236 View Post
    I play on Low settings so I can't see them.
    Real talk I used to know a guy who apparently didn't know you could zoom out for like, months of playing the game, so he just straight up didn't see a lot of things coming. I'm definitely guilty of equally silly things, so this isn't me throwing shade, it's just like. Man. It really do be that way sometimes.
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    Last edited by Avidria; 01-01-2022 at 08:02 AM. Reason: Realized that video is actually kind of loud lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaver1236 View Post
    The only trolls are the people who are saying there are visual indicators for everything. No there isn't. The people who made the guides probably used DBM so they know where to stand.
    Leaving aside that DBM hasn't worked with FF 14 since 2016, the way mechanics are found in this game is good old fashioned trial and error. Even Cactbot doesn't get updated until people have cleared it and can give a confirmed timeline through playing the encounter out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaver1236 View Post
    The only trolls are the people who are saying there are visual indicators for everything. No there isn't. The people who made the guides probably used DBM so they know where to stand.
    1st every mechanic in FFXIV has a tell, even Savage Raids.

    2nd, DBM doesn't exists in FFXIV* it's a WOW thing, also DBM worked by interpreting Boss Tells, so even in WOW every Fight had easy to read tells, but the player base was too lazy so DBM was able to make their app and be successful.

    So far you have not given any actual evidence of an issue, and you are trying to sound like there is one when there is not. And yes, honestly this post really reminds me of That one guy who would often post Troll posts, not to say you are him, and not to say your intent is to troll, but you do seem to behaving in a manner that is indicative of trollish posting.





    * DBM tried to design an app for FFXIV at one point, but due to SE stance on addons, and because getting it to work in a game like FFXIV without add support is hard AF, they basically abandoned the effort. There are Apps out their that track game mechanics for FFXIV but they are slow to update, and are frowned upon by the community for the most part, High End raiders may use Trackers for DPS and parsing data, and they may use apps to adjust the UI, and even make the game more pretty, but generally Discord Call Outs and learning the fights is the preferred method of dealing with mechanics.
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    Last edited by Gothicshark; 01-03-2022 at 05:21 AM.