Jobs and Class, I am nervous now.

[Starlord]

I really feel bad for you guys because you're not even able to see how truly sad your point of view is. It was people like you that were the people in beta telling the rest of us "It's only beta, wait and see."

and then "We still have a few weeks before release, wait and see."

and then "Its only just been released, wait and see."

and then "Its only been two months since release, wait and see."

etc, etc.

Your talking about the old team.. This is an entirely different team, that's nearly always hits the mark in Quality patches recently. There's a difference

[NoctisUmbra]

I really feel bad for you guys because you're not even able to see how truly sad your point of view is. It was people like you that were the people in beta telling the rest of us "It's only beta, wait and see."

and then "We still have a few weeks before release, wait and see."

and then "Its only just been released, wait and see."

and then "Its only been two months since release, wait and see."

etc, etc.

The patch hits in 2-3 days you bloody genius. What do you hope thia thread will accomplish by then?

[darkstarpoet1]

Your talking about the old team.. This is an entirely different team, that's nearly always hits the mark in Quality patches recently. There's a difference

no it's not just the old team. the same thing is still going on.

battle sucks "wait til 1.18'
1.18
battle is still bad "wait til they finish"

crafting sucks "wait til recipe changes"
recipe changes hit
crafting is still bad "that was only the first change keep waiting"

as far as entirely a different team you may want to look that up. there were very few changes off of the old team. they did add some new people and changed the people in leadership positions, but the majority of the original team are in place.

[Starlord]

no it's not just the old team. the same thing is still going on.

battle sucks "wait til 1.18'
1.18
battle is still bad "wait til they finish"

crafting sucks "wait til recipe changes"
recipe changes hit
crafting is still bad "that was only the first change keep waiting"

as far as entirely a different team you may want to look that up. there were very few changes off of the old team. they did add some new people and changed the people in leadership positions, but the majority of the original team are in place.

Your Opinion, not fact

Changing Directors/Producers= Is like Changing the whole thing entirely ( New Vision, Different aspect etc) may not Necessarily mean the whole team has to be changed to have a different approach, You can change a whole team.. but if the same Focus same Vision is there.. then nothing really changes with the future of the game.

[NoctisUmbra]

no it's not just the old team. the same thing is still going on.

battle sucks "wait til 1.18'
1.18
battle is still bad "wait til they finish"

crafting sucks "wait til recipe changes"
recipe changes hit
crafting is still bad "that was only the first change keep waiting"

as far as entirely a different team you may want to look that up. there were very few changes off of the old team. they did add some new people and changed the people in leadership positions, but the majority of the original team are in place.

That's not what's happening here though. Giving feedback on current builds is one thing, but whats happening here is an attempt at feedback or criticism on a build we have yet to try and see.

[Reaujien]

that is called voicing a concern. giving feedback is for after it goes into the game. the thing is he voices a concern based off of questionable evidence is better than the people disputing his concerns with zero evidence. he has a right to voice his concerns. they may be wrong once the patch hits, but it is nice to see where people have concerns so they can be tested, disputed, and refuted after the items are brought into the game.

Right, except the fact that he did voice his concern off of very VERY superficial, non-empirical (sp) information, and the majority of us have been trying to say, "Hey, bro, yeah it seems weird, but it's even more weird that they'd spend thousands of hours just to create something that will have little to no effect at all to the current system. I think you should just relax for the time being, try out the patch, and if you still have concerns voice them again once you've had a chance to actually try the new stuff out."

Yes, by all means voice your concerns, but don't shout "the sky is going to fall on Friday!" and expect to be coddled by the rest of the community. Especially when nearly every attempt to approach his concerns from a different perspective he's just going to sit there and shove his subjective concerns in your face like it's the factual realization of what will come.

[darkstarpoet1]

Your Opinion, not fact

no not my opinion. i am using those as examples of what has went on in these very forums. people have been complaining since this staff took over just as much as they did during the old staff. both groups that had issues were told the exact same thing. they were told to wait. it was not just something that went on during the original staff.

[Starlord]

no not my opinion. i am using those as examples of what has went on in these very forums. people have been complaining since this staff took over just as much as they did during the old staff. both groups that had issues were told the exact same thing. they were told to wait. it was not just something that went on during the original staff.

And it is the Complaining of the Forums which will if anything be the destruction of this game "If anything"

[Reaujien]

I really feel bad for you guys because you're not even able to see how truly sad your point of view is. It was people like you that were the people in beta telling the rest of us "It's only beta, wait and see."

and then "We still have a few weeks before release, wait and see."

and then "Its only just been released, wait and see."

and then "Its only been two months since release, wait and see."

etc, etc.

Wow, are you serious? .... actually PLAYING content and knowing it's crap is very different than watching a 45sec video showing off ONE aspect of ONE change (i.e., the 'H' button functionality) and assuming it's going to be crap.

Dude... c'mon, really? That's like watching a 30-second movie trailer, and posting on Facebook, "Look how crappy this movie is going to be. I know for fact!"

Man...

[Firon]

Ancient magic spells. Hopefully they don't all share the 15 minute timer, because before they were removed the first time developers decided to make them all 80 second recasts. So if you casted flare all ancient spells would be on the 80 second timer.

Convert (Gimped Exaltation)

Sleepga (Sleep without aoe toggle)

How is a convert an gimped Exalation? That skill would never give you 2k+ mp no matter much mp you had.