*Spoilers* Anyone feel joining Emet would have been better

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I was referring to when they found out about the universe in Elpis. None of the three fell into shock or despair from that.

Two of those there would go on a multi millennia campaign to do what they thought was right for humanity and the third sacrificed themselves to create a god. Hell, all three agreed Venat was right in the end. Maybe they aren’t the best example of what you’re trying to argue.

Clearly Venat thought it was possible given she planned and prepared for that very eventuality. Is there some particular reason she couldn't have simply done that instead of killing everyone else and forcing them to adhere to her ideals?

Of course she thought it possible, my point however is that’s not a solution the way silencing the song of oblivion is and would only lead to the destruction of Etheirys and all life.

Your argument is that all of her summoners had to die to give Hydaelyn a chance despite her specifically being designed with a power that hard-countered Zodiark, but despite being an Ancient concept empowered by their souls she was also conveniently not powerful enough to cause this vague "tug"...

Yes, my argument is she is specifically made to restrain Zodiark and Her powers are limited due to the fact that 2/3 of the world did not sacrifice themselves to power Her. If you can’t recognize there may be effects unique to that case then perhaps this discussion will be fruitless.

99.99999% of modern humanity would also stand absolutely no chance doing that same thing. A bunch of panicky civilians aren't heroes, that's true regardless of the era.

I choose to believe 99% of people wouldn’t sacrifice innocent lives.

Venat knew the solution...

Then don’t take my word for it. Here’s Venat.



It’s clear that a basic understanding of a concept shouldn’t be enough for one to base their hopes on. Venat recognizes the need for Hermes expertise, and recognizes her own limitations. What reason would she have to not fairly judge the situation, if it would only be to her benefit?

Or, as I postulated before, she did and the distrust this bred led them to ignore her.

And then you must concede you have 0 evidence of this.

We all do that on a daily basis. Why, given life, is the Dodo meant to die, helpless in my stir-fry?

I wonder why they didn’t just breed a bunch of chickens and sacrifice them to Zodiark then. I mean it’s not like Emet has shown a willingness to sacrifice innocent sapient life in pursuit of his goals. Right?