The State of the Ascians (Assume Spoilers as of TODAY)

[JeanneOrnitier]

I also guess we're supposed to assume Gaius dealt with them while in his shadowhunter phase. The characters are sure acting like they're gone. It was really weird it wasn't addressed directly though.

With Zodiark dead the Ascians don't have a purpose more anyway, but it's weird the ones we saw in ARR haven't even been mentioned since (in the present I mean, not the Convocation of the past)

[MrThinker]

10 chars too little

Deudalaphon remains the only member of the Ascians/Convocation to not be explicitly named within the game and any of it's suplementary materials upto this point!

[WhiteArchmage]

I'd groan very loudly if our missing Ascians got dealt with off-screen

Emet also told us the duties of Altima, Halmarut, and Pashtarot; meaning Deudalaphon is the only Sir-Not-Appearing-In-This-Game of our missing 4 (and Schordinger's Emmerololth... and the 2 extra Ascians in 2.3). I'm hoping that if they got offed at some point we at least get an Echo vision of it, or they're involved in Pandaemonium SOMEHOW.

Of note about Lahabrea/Pandaemonium

Emet also mentioned of Lahabrea that he'd "brought forth phantom beings of the highest complexity". I'm... thinking this was foreshadowing about Pandaemonium... but not sure if it's the resting place of said creatures... or the name of the most powerful of them considering the stinger...

[MirronTulaxia]

I do wonder what happened to them all. It seems odd that they didn’t really address it. But maybe it’ll get handled in the patches. I know they said this is the end of the Ascians, but maybe that’s just as an antagonistic force.

[Cleretic]

I get that they want to put the Ascians away and call them done, but it is very weird that they just sort of memory-holed the last four (Emmerololth I can understand, she did at least die). Like... really, guys? You don't even want to keep a few space wizards in the back pocket as a treat or a just-in-case?

[Baxcel]

Looking further into some background with names.. I believe we can almost confirm Lahabrea as Hephaestus.

From the new raid series we have a new Ancient named Erichthonius, who has said his mother was Athena. Looking on the name we see that threw Greek shenanigans (not PG do not look it up) his parents where infact Hephaestus and Athena.

Plus it dose kinda fit, Laha is the speaker, he has the final say in what creation plans get approved and what gets locked away or destroyed. Hermes is head of Elpis but still has to send his stuff to Laha in the end and more then likely there are other creation sites besides Elpis.

[Enkidoh]

Also in Elpis there was a point you could speak to Emet and he would elaborate on the actual organization of the Convocation and specifically, what each seat dealt with in day to day affairs (much of it, rather mundane government work) - some of it was rather surprising, for instance Altima being responsible for, among other things, the arts especially was an eyebrow raiser for me. So studying that might help fill in a lot of the blanks about the Ascians and their titles, and who they might have been back in the Unsundered World.

Elpis also confirmed Elidibus's statement back when he first appeared in ARR about his white robe identifying him as an 'emmisary', and getting rather insulted no one knew what the hell he was talking about (given it was common knowledge in ancient times). Seats on the Convocation that were emmisary/liason roles (as in, dealt with the wider world at large or the common people directly) wore white robes identifying them as such, and the seat of Elidibus was one of them, (something he carried with him post Sundering and his status as Zodairk's heart).

Interestingly, it seams the seat of Azem was also one that wore a white robe given Emet's above explanation about the Convocation stated Azem's role also involved interacting directly with 'the masses', allthough it was not confimed, it does probably however explain Venat's more slightly greyish robe, as a former Azem who refused to 'return to the Star' upon her resignation she probably had to change her robe's colour to reflect her new social status as no longer part of the Convocation, but still serving a "help anyone"/defender of the world role (sound familiar?).

[GrenDuelar]

Seats on the Convocation that were emmisary/liason roles (as in, dealt with the wider world at large or the common people directly) wore white robes identifying them as such, and the seat of Elidibus was one of them, (something he carried with him post Sundering and his status as Zodairk's heart).

Actually, I'm almost completely certain that they said the white robes are a mark of impartiality, and are only worn by the Emissary and retired Convocation members like Venat.

The implication is that they can be trusted to not place the interests of the Convocation above those they're helping or advising, and may even act against its interests.

[Cleretic]

Also in Elpis there was a point you could speak to Emet and he would elaborate on the actual organization of the Convocation and specifically, what each seat dealt with in day to day affairs (much of it, rather mundane government work) - some of it was rather surprising, for instance Altima being responsible for, among other things, the arts especially was an eyebrow raiser for me. So studying that might help fill in a lot of the blanks about the Ascians and their titles, and who they might have been back in the Unsundered World.

I believe that there is, even with all that, a single blank: we still know nothing about Deudalaphon.

[Iscah]

Interestingly, it seams the seat of Azem was also one that wore a white robe given Emet's above explanation about the Convocation stated Azem's role also involved interacting directly with 'the masses', allthough it was not confimed, ...

I didn't get any impression that we were supposed to think Azem is white-robed. The significance of Venat's robe was highlighted as her being an ex-member, nothing to do with the position itself.