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  1. #33471
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    Sorimachi87's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Aoi Fukuhara
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Final endwalker boss and it was a struggle fest cause the entire dps army was new, co heal was also struggling and i was tilting mechanics real hard for some reason.
    We fought our way through and i had a extremely rare 35 minutes discussion about endwalker and ffxiv in general with one of the tanks at the end of it. We both completed the story and it was really really refreshing to do this. Normally we just peace the f.. out everytime.

    So yeah if you read this. Person from Zodiark. Thank you!
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  2. #33472
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    Bobby66's Avatar
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    Paper Wait
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    So as a Sage, I'm not suppose to use my barriers? Because they also said don't use that either.
    "Zalera) but stop using eukrasian diagnosis on me"
    (I'm still in-game and have the chat so that's what they also said. Just not worth a screenie for one thing lol)
    Which is all I was using and the Hama thing. I do DPS but I mean I'ma get scared if my tank gets low, and what if he died?
    Then I'd really get the crap. I'm only playing SGE so I guess I should say "Shielding" because I shield more than I "heal" technically.

    Thanks for the explanation. It's very unfortunate as you say but as I said, I'm not there to press 1 DPS button forever because I intended to heal primarily.
    That doesn't say I don't DPS (I like shielding tanks and then using Tox when it breaks and my other DPS stuff if I can but still.)
    There is obviously an issue with how either the self-sustain works or how healers are starting to become not needed.
    I never thought I hear the day when a tank says, "Damn, it's annoying when my healer is healing me when I can heal myself all day everyday!"
    Apologies but something is wrong in the system here.
    Hey self sustain as a warrior is where we get our rocks off okay, please do not take that sweet joy away from us.
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  3. #33473
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    Jybril's Avatar
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    Junpei Iorii
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Hey self sustain as a warrior is where we get our rocks off okay, please do not take that sweet joy away from us.
    I'll allow your joy, Lala sister, but if you go out your way to tell me not to heal you multiple times I'll take my healing expertise elsewhere! lol.
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  4. #33474
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    BaconBits's Avatar
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    Arya Diavolos
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    eukrasian diagnosis is, in my experience, best used during downtime to build toxicon and shouldn't be used if you could dps and haven't exhausted your kit yet, though it's obv ok if there's nothing else to use

    to keep it on-topic


    what the absolute flying frick have you been doing for the last 80 levels, whm?
    what the absolute flying frick have you been doing for the last 80 levels, blm?

    I think I counted like 5 holy's throughout the whole dungeon as they'd rather happily spammed cure 2 on me while I was at like, 95% health, also never healed themselves or the blm or reaper, though it's understandable in the blm's case, but which "forced" me to heal them to full
    the blm never did any of the mechanics of the first boss and died twice there
    never did any mechanics of the second boss and died twice there
    never did any mechanics of the last boss and, want to guess it? no! didn't die twice, died 4 times! four (quattro)
    this marker that's doing damage to me? yep, I can stand in it
    the stack marker that's the same for multiple expansions? let me run away with it, that's what you do with it, right?
    I think that's enough DF for the rest of the year for me
    Wait a minute, you got a White Mage that spams Cure 2 instead of Cure 1? By God they're evolving.

    On a more serious note, the sheer amount of White Mages I encounter in DF that don't use Holy is just baffling. Imagine going through 45 levels completely ignoring one of the strongest abilities in your dungeon toolkit and wondeeing why you have a hard time healing.
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    Last edited by BaconBits; 12-30-2021 at 11:36 PM.

  5. #33475
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Died in Pandaemonium 4. Healer LB3 went out. Raised straight into a no-DPS orb and killed before I can even move. So it goes.
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  6. #33476
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    Nyarlha's Avatar
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    Nyarlha Moonstalker
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Died in Pandaemonium 4. Healer LB3 went out. Raised straight into a no-DPS orb and killed before I can even move. So it goes.
    Reminds me of my first run the first day. More than half the party gets knocked back into the spikes. Healer use LB3, everyone gets raised into the spikes, dying again straight away.
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  7. #33477
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Crowe Valtyr
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Died in Pandaemonium 4. Healer LB3 went out. Raised straight into a no-DPS orb and killed before I can even move. So it goes.
    Had something similar happen yesterday, but it was the death wall.

    The MT and I both went down due to some oopsies, a bunch of dps proceeded to follow because one healer had already been dead and the alive one was struggling hard to get anyone back up. They popped healer LB3, which got everyone up...!

    Except it came out like right when a knockback happened. Most of the DPS survived, but I and the MT almost immediately got knocked back into the death wall and died again. Apparently it goes through res immunity, I guess? Genuinely not sure what happened, but we were all laughing about it.

    Surprisingly, we didn't actually wipe. War of attrition. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

  8. #33478
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    Hatfright's Avatar
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    Mist
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    Sono Faolain
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Died in Pandaemonium 4. Healer LB3 went out. Raised straight into a no-DPS orb and killed before I can even move. So it goes.
    Just like my Paradigm tower last week. One of the alliances went down, healer LB3 happened, half of that group was instadead again, cuz their previous death was due to deathwall. Good times.
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
    J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

  9. #33479
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    Reminds me of my first run the first day. More than half the party gets knocked back into the spikes. Healer use LB3, everyone gets raised into the spikes, dying again straight away.
    Good to know that if that happens I need to just walk into the death wall to reset the fight, or if someone else is still up - preferably a tank - to get everyone up slowly while trying to keep them alive.


    As for a story, doing my P2 on Tuesday for the 4th time to get the drop(didn't know that many people wanted boots...), and everyone was basically stacked together when we each got our individual AoEs. I popped sprint, and ran my way along the path to try and get away from everyone, but a RPR - with no sprint active - kept moving with me even though they could have stopped so that I could get past them and not get hit by a double dose of AoE. That was my only death that run.

    In one of the other runs that night, I ended up using Icarus to try and make it to the stack line AoE...going through the tank buster and eating that in the process. Didn't think it was that close, but I must have just barely been inside it.
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  10. #33480
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    Garnetiferous's Avatar
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    Character
    Cecille Williams
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    The other day, I was in Syrcus tower and my alliance's tank decided to rapidly spin the boss around because "It prevents auto attacks from hitting! " and I asked him to stop and he refused so the other alliances took over tanking from him. That's dumb, but then 2 more people from my FC in other content said they ran into tanks doing the same thing, spinning the boss and claiming it avoids auto attacks. Very strange.
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