Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Packetdancer]

Icarus is amazingly awesome - especially on stack markers - it's refreshes fast, but I'd kill for two charges on it. Once in, and once out.

While I still haven't seen the rampant misuse of Rescue (or, really, any use of Rescue) that others seem to, I will admit it has occurred to me that if I ever actually need to troll one of my static (because sometimes, vengeance is required), I will 100% be able to Rescue them into the bad and immediately Icarus away to safety.

(To misuse a Babylon 5 quote, "Never start a troll war... but always finish it.")

[Shibi]

I will admit it has occurred to me that if I ever actually need to troll one of my static (because sometimes, vengeance is required), I will 100% be able to Rescue them into the bad and immediately Icarus away to safety.

hahaha

Add a /hum at the end

[Jybril]

Can someone explain to me what the hell is going on with Warrior's self-sustain?
I was literally told to not heal. I'm not just going to DPS 1 button the entire run as a HEALER, because I queued up TO HEAL.
Asked me to not use barriers either lmfao.

Need explanations. I'm probably an ahole because I left when he begged me not to heal anymore.
If I'm not needed in content, they need to really fix tanks/warrior/healer role.
They either need to nerf WAR or do something about healers.
I'm seriously about to shelf healer anyways and now this happens lol.

Edit: I was a Sage and he asked me to not use barriers which is after I mainly use.

[Chie_M]

Can someone explain to me what the hell is going on with Warrior's self-sustain?
I was literally told to not heal. I'm not just going to DPS 1 button the entire run as a HEALER, because I queued up TO HEAL.
Asked me to not use barriers either lmfao.

Need explanations. I'm probably an ahole because I left when he begged me not to heal anymore.
If I'm not needed in content, they need to really fix tanks/warrior/healer role.
They either need to nerf WAR or do something about healers.
I'm seriously about to shelf healer anyways and now this happens lol.

You shouldn't be GCD healing anyway unless it's absolutely necessary.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Can someone explain to me what the hell is going on with Warrior's self-sustain?
I was literally told to not heal. I'm not just going to DPS 1 button the entire run as a HEALER, because I queued up TO HEAL.
Asked me to not use barriers either lmfao.

Need explanations. I'm probably an ahole because I left when he begged me not to heal anymore.
If I'm not needed in content, they need to really fix tanks/warrior/healer role.
They either need to nerf WAR or do something about healers.
I'm seriously about to shelf healer anyways and now this happens lol.

Here it is: WAR's self sustain.

At lv56 they learn Raw Intuition. EW iteration of this ability gives them 6s of small self damage reduction & hp restoration buff. It works nicely as self maintenance tool in boss encounters & becomes broken in multi-target/wall pull situation. It's essentially self benediction for 3 GCDs with a 25s cooldown when utilized properly. At lv82 this ability gets buffed into Bloodwhetting, giving WAR additional small shield and extends the duration to 8s, potentially giving them 4 GCDs of self benediction.
Additionally at lv54 they also learn Equilibrium. Their self oGCD healing that heals the same amount of your Cure II. Somewhere in lv80s this also gets a trait upgrade that adds a healing over time on top of the burst heal. This ability has 60s cooldown, meaning if the WAR is playing correctly, this tool will always be ready in every pull.

Healing a WAR in dungeon is basically recognizing how they are utilizing their raw intuition/bloodwhetting & equilibriums. They are broken in dungeons, you only need to step in to heal once they're out of those tools. Mind you because Raw Intuition/Bloodwhetting are on absurdly low cooldown, it means that ability will most likely get 2 uses each pulls & will be up every pulls. I've once handled a wall pull with my healer only throwing 1 (one) Regen on me while dpsing for the rest of the pull by starting with Bloodwhetting > heal self to full, start popping my cooldown, one of them being Thrill of Battle > hp drops a bit lower than 50%, pops Equilibrium > next time my HP drops low again, I pop another Bloodwhetting, self heal to full again. Around this time packs are all close to death/already finished.

So unfortunately yes, if I'm playing as a WAR in dungeon, it becomes annoying when my goodwilled healer is trying their best to heal....nothing. Unless the healer has a co-WAR friend or plays WAR themselves, these healers will most likely ignore my self sustains. Hence it's only logical why that WAR you encountered wanted you to dps more or at least not to use GCD heals; they got it covered for the most part. Go ahead and trigger happy Holy/Art of War/Gravity/Dyskrasia to your heart's content.

[Irzephyra]

You shouldn't be GCD healing anyway unless it's absolutely necessary.

Well, actually, healers should heal.

...said I, the full dps player.

Healers take our jobs!!!!!!

[Jybril]

You shouldn't be GCD healing anyway unless it's absolutely necessary.

So as a Sage, I'm not suppose to use my barriers? Because they also said don't use that either.
"Zalera) but stop using eukrasian diagnosis on me"
(I'm still in-game and have the chat so that's what they also said. Just not worth a screenie for one thing lol)
Which is all I was using and the Hama thing. I do DPS but I mean I'ma get scared if my tank gets low, and what if he died?
Then I'd really get the crap. I'm only playing SGE so I guess I should say "Shielding" because I shield more than I "heal" technically.

So unfortunately yes, if I'm playing as a WAR in dungeon, it becomes annoying when my goodwilled healer is trying their best to heal....nothing. Unless the healer has a co-WAR friend or plays WAR themselves, these healers will most likely ignore my self sustains. Hence it's only logical why that WAR you encountered wanted you to dps more or at least not to use GCD heals; they got it covered for the most part. Go ahead and trigger happy Holy/Art of War/Gravity/Dyskrasia to your heart's content.

Thanks for the explanation. It's very unfortunate as you say but as I said, I'm not there to press 1 DPS button forever because I intended to heal primarily.
That doesn't say I don't DPS (I like shielding tanks and then using Tox when it breaks and my other DPS stuff if I can but still.)
There is obviously an issue with how either the self-sustain works or how healers are starting to become not needed.
I never thought I hear the day when a tank says, "Damn, it's annoying when my healer is healing me when I can heal myself all day everyday!"
Apologies but something is wrong in the system here.

[Tarandel]

Just a few days ago I saw the exact opposite. A Healer complaining that the WAR would heal themself. I guess they thought it was extra effort like Clemency when it's actually just normal WAR rotation

[Jettinson]

Sage gets you into the habit of relying on cooldown management rather than spammable large heals. It's very similar to scholar. When it hits the fan and no cooldowns are left, though. I'm forced to rely on e-diagnosis spam while praying for a crit.

Pepsis is a weird substitute for emergency tactics as well, however it will heal the full amount no matter how much of the shield is left, so as long as you're quick it'll work in a pinch.

Yeah, although it still feels a bit different than scholar on some toolkits. That Eukrasia really works wonders once I realised that it has no timer on keeping it so I can just use a fast GCD and still use other oGCD while I can hold that in case. Also I love Haima, i can see why some tools are 120s on cooldown lol.

[Rinhi]

eukrasian diagnosis is, in my experience, best used during downtime to build toxicon and shouldn't be used if you could dps and haven't exhausted your kit yet, though it's obv ok if there's nothing else to use

to keep it on-topic


what the absolute flying frick have you been doing for the last 80 levels, whm?
what the absolute flying frick have you been doing for the last 80 levels, blm?

I think I counted like 5 holy's throughout the whole dungeon as they'd rather happily spammed cure 2 on me while I was at like, 95% health, also never healed themselves or the blm or reaper, though it's understandable in the blm's case, but which "forced" me to heal them to full
the blm never did any of the mechanics of the first boss and died twice there
never did any mechanics of the second boss and died twice there
never did any mechanics of the last boss and, want to guess it? no! didn't die twice, died 4 times! four (quattro)
this marker that's doing damage to me? yep, I can stand in it
the stack marker that's the same for multiple expansions? let me run away with it, that's what you do with it, right?
I think that's enough DF for the rest of the year for me