PvP Rewards; 6.1 and beyond.

[Ixon]

It wouldnt suprise me if the whole PvPaissa Discord is full of Wintraders. It is the same mess on Omega DC on every Feast Season, the moment a non-regular of the Top 100 Leaderboard shows up anywhere close to it who isnt part of the Discord, gets quickly filtered away by said regulars (or their Alts) by them either throwing the game, or simply log off the moment you are in their team.

Let me give you an example of how removed from reality this statement is: "It wouldn't surprise me if the whole Balance Discord is full of people who buy all their clears."(This might be true idk) I would really like to hear any sort of actual evidence you have on any of the stuff you spewed out. I assume either yourself or someone you know got told once how they could play better in PVP, got mad, left all discords, never improved, didn't make top100, and got madge.

[Dewslam]

Let me give you an example of how removed from reality this statement is: "It wouldn't surprise me if the whole Balance Discord is full of people who buy all their clears."(This might be true idk)

Even if it was, it wouldn't matter because PVE players buying clears doesn't impact other people in any way. Thousands of people could cheese and cheat their ultimate clears and it wouldn't prevent anyone else from legitimately clearing it because ultimate loot doesn't only get distributed to the top percentage of raiders before fading out of existence forever. It is not a valid comparison, never has been and never will be.

Anyway, it's fun seeing how PVP player defenses of their ~exclusive~ items almost always come down to tearing down other players and leaping straight to personal attacks (half the posts in this thread are people just shitposting things like "you're mad because you're bad" as if that contributes anything). It's pretty fun and highlights exactly why this kind of loot is terrible for a community.

[Ixon]

Even if it was, it wouldn't matter because PVE players buying clears doesn't impact other people in any way. Thousands of people could cheese and cheat their ultimate clears and it wouldn't prevent anyone else from legitimately clearing it because ultimate loot doesn't only get distributed to the top percentage of raiders before fading out of existence forever. It is not a valid comparison, never has been and never will be.

Anyway, it's fun seeing how PVP player defenses of their ~exclusive~ items almost always come down to tearing down other players and leaping straight to personal attacks (half the posts in this thread are people just shitposting things like "you're mad because you're bad" as if that contributes anything). It's pretty fun and highlights exactly why this kind of loot is terrible for a community.

It's a competitive game mode. Blaming anything other than yourself for not getting what you want in a competitive game mode is ignorance. "Mad cause bad" is just an oversimplification of the truth.

[Dewslam]

It's a competitive game mode. Blaming anything other than yourself for not getting what you want in a competitive game mode is ignorance. "Mad cause bad" is just an oversimplification of the truth.

But it is a complete fabrication of why people don't like that model of loot distribution. Much like the people who waltz in, clearly not having read a single post, ranting about people wanting "participation trophies". Creating a strawman argument to swiftly defeat doesn't actually make your arguments look as strong as you think they do. It makes them look ignorant and insecure. And when so many players rush in to parrot the same points again and again, it just paints feast players in a hilariously negative light.