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  1. #101
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    The 蛮神 (banshin) are naught but fake gods conjured from aether and the prayers of the devout.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  2. #102
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    Player Commendation
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    Leviathan
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    I didn't really get any anti religious vibes from the game. If anything, to me, the primals and older gods in the game remind me of merciless gods that were worshipped through world history (quetzalcoatl or Ares for example).
    Really even after killing the pope?
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  3. #103
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    Severian Lyonesse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    The 蛮神 (banshin) are naught but fake gods conjured from aether and the prayers of the devout.
    I think it's pretty clear in FFXIV that even the "real" gods were created. FFXIV's opinion seems to be that all gods are manmade constructs based on what totally natural things they have raised up and mythified.
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  4. #104
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    Jojo Ryder
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    Famfrit
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    I’m stuck between trolling or is this genuine? Because.....what?
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  5. #105
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    Last Starfighter
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    I guess you can say Minfilia is Jesus. Technically she died to save others.
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  6. #106
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    Pure Mallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I see no issue here. Religion is a disease and my warrior of light is the cure.
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  7. #107
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    Brezeris Skulltkin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    I see no issue here. Religion is a disease and my warrior of light is the cure.
    I see an issue here, your warrior of light is a disease and Emet-Selch is the cure
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  8. #108
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    The game isn't anti religion, but it's very much anti religious corruption. Not all religious practice is shown in a negative light throughout the game.
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  9. #109
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    People still can't tell fantasy from real life and think that everything artists create is a direct message and reflection of their views?
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  10. #110
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuron View Post
    The main story of this game is threading on dangerous religious grounds mainly because of when a specific groups of people (beast tribes) summon their gods and we go there, kill their gods and put those people in their place after they get brainwashed (tempered) by their respective dieties. This kind of story is very dangerous in religious countries and square enix will get in legal trouble if they continue this type of storyline. This game has now gained a lot of attention and popularity. Its no longer hidden by WoW and the storyline will get a lot of attention now all over the world.

    Basically the story of FFXIV is saying that "Don't worship your gods or else we will kill your gods and then put you in your place. All the gods when summoned turns evil and brainwash (tempers) their people".

    I was also shocked to see that when a particularly important NPC told me all the 12 gods of the civilized races of Eorzea like Rhalgr, Halone, etc can be summoned if we lavish them with crystals and gorge them with ether. And when summoned the gods will turn evil (just like the beast tribe gods) and will fully brainwash (temper) all their worshippers. This type of storyline may have worked 15-20 years ago but nowadays in this new generation people will not tolerate it.

    I won't be surprise if the storyline gets censored in the coming days in majority of the countries.
    After having played the MSQ I was wondering how long some anti-religion post was going to get put here.

    Was honestly longer than I expected.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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