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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    It's easy to dismiss someone else's beliefs...but I am pretty sure if there was a Jesus guy, I would be pretty peeved.
    Uh, Vauthry says hi.

    Second, there's no dismissing of beliefs going on here. The OP, who is clearly trolling, is saying that killing the Primals is akin to a 'war on religion'. Neglecting the entire point of the story that it's not that the Primals are gods, its they are flawed constructs brought forth by warped faith given flesh. They are imperfect creations based on what the summoners believe their gods to be like, not the actual god in of itself. Tempering was an Ascian trick, also not applicable.

    Then there's the fact it's a flipping video game, a JRPG at that. JRPG's have this little trope about "killing a god" that's gone on for well over thirty years.

    People need to stop getting triggered and offended over nothing burgers.
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    To be honest many eastern, and even western, game developers have a poor grasp of theology and actual religious doctrine. So I do agree with OP to some extent. Also, religious free societies have been attempted...and have resulted in the deaths of millions. So please, get off thine high horse.
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    I liked Vauthry- I didn't see him that way... but to each their own
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    The WoL has never solved their problems by themselves though. They’ve always had some deity or higher up entity aiding them. We also literally summon primals ourselves in both Eden and the end of EW to help us. So is it only a case of it’s only okay when the protagonists do it?
    Thats true!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    I liked Vauthry- I didn't see him that way... but to each their own
    Leader of his people and given a following that is outside of the cultural norm at the time.
    Half human half "divine" (In this aspect, Sin Eater).
    Feeds his following bread that is literally his "flesh".
    He revives himself into a more Divine Form.

    There's other examples I can use to draw the appropriate parallels but they are a bit more in the realm of "squint and you'll see it". These are just the biggest ones on the surface.
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    I can see the parallels, but it is squint enough far that I don't see it as an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuron View Post
    There is a god in this game called Lakshmi that we have to fight. And Lakshmi is one of the Hindu gods. Tell me how this type of storyline will not offend Hindu people. I, myself, am a Hindu person and I felt offended at that part of the storyline.
    you cannot be serious right now...
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    You are just the worst kind of troll. Can this guy get freaking banned already please?
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    You are just the worst kind of troll. Can this guy get freaking banned already please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuron View Post
    There is a god in this game called Lakshmi that we have to fight. And Lakshmi is one of the Hindu gods. Tell me how this type of storyline will not offend Hindu people. I, myself, am a Hindu person and I felt offended at that part of the storyline.
    You didn't fight Lakshmi, you fought a perversion of Lakshmi (because all primals who came about due to the summoning methods taught by the Ascians are perversions of the object of faith, which will be revealed to be intentional later on). Note that the group of Ananta that sent you to slay the primal also worships Sri Lakshmi, and explicitly calls the primal an abomination and nothing like the Lakshmi they worship if you select the dialogue option that tells them that choosing to send you to deal with the problems means they've signed the primal's death warrant.

    In the post Shadowbringers story
    you even find a cure for tempering which is explicitly shown not to do anything about the recipients' religious belief. The first group you cure are Kobolds who worship Titan and were tempered when they summoned him. The cure leaves them still worshippers of Titan, but freed of the More Than Mind Control that tempering inflicts. And as you continue, more groups get freed from their tempering.


    and as additional evidence to this, do the Amaal'ja daily quests. The Brotherhood of Ash is a group of Amaal'ja who are not tempered, and find the summoned version of their god Ifrit to be an... abomination.
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