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    Why do roulettes have to special anyways?
    Cant just a simple dungeon run give you enough rewards?
    Thats the point I am trying to make.

    You love the ghostship island duty? Just play it and get your reward as much as you like. Why does it have to be so complicated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    Why do roulettes have to special anyways?
    Cant just a simple dungeon run give you enough rewards?
    Thats the point I am trying to make.

    You love the ghostship island duty? Just play it and get your reward as much as you like. Why does it have to be so complicated?
    You need a way to find people to "help" (read: fill the empty spots) for that old content that would otherwise be completely irrelevant and no one would run. The sprouts need to complete a specific set of duties to progress after all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    Cant just a simple dungeon run give you enough rewards?
    Please, tell me the rewards for doing an old dungeon/alliance as a lvl80+ player outside of roulette?

    What do I get for running Sastasha and getting bored to tears? I'm not getting any xp, I'm not getting any relevant loot. Hell, i'm not even getting poetics (which I'm drowning in either way, so don't tell me poetics are good enough rewards for doing later alliance raids).

    And if old players who have already cleared the content don't queue for said content, what happens to new people going through it? Infinite queue. This is why you incentivize people into running roulettes. You give decent queues to new players, and rewards to the old players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    Please, tell me the rewards for doing an old dungeon/alliance as a lvl80+ player outside of roulette?

    What do I get for running Sastasha and getting bored to tears? I'm not getting any xp, I'm not getting any relevant loot. Hell, i'm not even getting poetics (which I'm drowning in either way, so don't tell me poetics are good enough rewards for doing later alliance raids).

    And if old players who have already cleared the content don't queue for said content, what happens to new people going through it? Infinite queue. This is why you incentivize people into running roulettes. You give decent queues to new players, and rewards to the old players.
    They are nonexistent, thats what I am talking about. There SHOULD be rewards nonetheless! Should Roulette have a bit more? Sure, why not, but that way its not the ONLY rewardi g way besides grinding the most recent dungeon to death.

    If ya want more, then go roulette, but you have the CHOICE.

    The incentive would still be there, its just not the only way, then. You seem to think people wouldnt run Random Dungeons without the reward and I disagree, who is right now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    They are nonexistent, thats what I am talking about. There SHOULD be rewards nonetheless! Should Roulette have a bit more? Sure, why not, but that way its not the ONLY rewardi g way besides grinding the most recent dungeon to death.

    If ya want more, then go roulette, but you have the CHOICE.

    The incentive would still be there, its just not the only way, then. You seem to think people wouldnt run Random Dungeons without the reward and I disagree, who is right now?
    Edit:

    If the game indirectly forces you to engage with something you are not completly agreeing to, just for the rewards, whats the point in playing in the first place?

    Thats the meaning of games, to be FUN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    Edit:

    If the game indirectly forces you to engage with something you are not completly agreeing to, just for the rewards, whats the point in playing in the first place?

    Thats the meaning of games, to be FUN!
    Lets remove all rewards from duties remember it's fun right you don't need them. Please stop.

    I have fun doing roulettes and other stuff. I run Main, Alliance, Leveling and do Pixies mostly at the moment. If i had to be forced into higher level alliance roulette raids on a regular basis i"d run a trust. I'd get probably the same if not better xp rewards the the time investment would be about the same if not lower.

    If I want to run Neir raids for the glamour items guess what I'll queue for them and so on. I'm don't here this is going nowhere.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 12-28-2021 at 08:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    If I want to run Neir raids for the glamour items guess what I'll queue for them and so on. I'm don't here this is going nowhere.
    And then you'd be sitting in queue for upwards of 30min to 2hrs waiting on the Neir raids to pop because everyone is forcing people in Crystal tower content by cheesing the ilvl..

    Funny how that works and can bit you in you butt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    They are nonexistent, thats what I am talking about. There SHOULD be rewards nonetheless! Should Roulette have a bit more? Sure, why not, but that way its not the ONLY rewardi g way besides grinding the most recent dungeon to death.

    If ya want more, then go roulette, but you have the CHOICE.

    The incentive would still be there, its just not the only way, then. You seem to think people wouldnt run Random Dungeons without the reward and I disagree, who is right now?
    And without roulettes, how would do you know some random newbie need a party to run say Haukke Manor? You want to push new players into Party Finder to find people to run required MSQ content?
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