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    I agree, alliance raids must be fixed.i can understand, that people nowadays tend to focus on the rewards, since the newer games condition them to this, but I reall wish we would get all the raids more often and not only tower of boredom.

    If people need incentives, fine by me, but I just want to play a game. Not grind or anything. I wanna do Roulette and have fun with whatever they throw at me, if we wipe some times, even better.

    But if its always the same old slow tower, this gets old really fast.

    People argue, that players die in Dun Scaith too often. Well tell me, how are they gonna learn all the mechanics, when all the time its just Crystal-Tower they get?

    Seriously, whats so appealing about a perfect but boring run, just to increase some numbers at the end? What are you even playing the game for? Enlighten me, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    I agree, alliance raids must be fixed.i can understand, that people nowadays tend to focus on the rewards, since the newer games condition them to this, but I reall wish we would get all the raids more often and not only tower of boredom.

    If people need incentives, fine by me, but I just want to play a game. Not grind or anything. I wanna do Roulette and have fun with whatever they throw at me, if we wipe some times, even better.

    But if its always the same old slow tower, this gets old really fast.

    People argue, that players die in Dun Scaith too often. Well tell me, how are they gonna learn all the mechanics, when all the time its just Crystal-Tower they get?

    Seriously, whats so appealing about a perfect but boring run, just to increase some numbers at the end? What are you even playing the game for? Enlighten me, please.
    There's a lot of things to do in this game and not everyone is willing to literally waste 45-60 minutes EVERY DAY to do an alliance raid
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  3. #323
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    Then why bother with alliance raids? They were made as long and difficult duties, like, thats what those are about? If there is other stuff to do, why not do that instead, then?

    Edit:

    I personally would rather spend 60 minutes in something interesting and difficult, than 10 minutes of something that is dull and boring. Thats my 2 cents and I know a handful that think so, too.
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    Last edited by Irzephyra; 12-28-2021 at 07:03 PM.

  4. #324
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    Then why bother with alliance raids? They were made as long and difficult duties, like, thats what those are about? If there is other stuff to do, why not do that instead, then?
    Oh rest assured that people are indeed going to do other activities instead of wasting up to an hour of their lives if SE decides to cull the ilvl cheese.
    How many players run the MSQ roulette now compared to when you could skip the cutscenes? A lot less I would bet
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    Good, thats how it should be! Players should choose what they want. If you ask me, I all for it, that people should just pick the dungeon they wanna play and get the same rewards as the roulette.

    Thats the difference here, people that are here demanding a change, ACTIVELY decide to play roulette, a random dungeon
    But in cheesing the system, that is not random at all, anymore.

    You are NOT choosing Roulette because of that, you want the incentive, which is legit, but by cheesing this stuff, the experience for others is greatly decreased. You understand that, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    Good, thats how it should be! Players should choose what they want. If you ask me, I all for it, that people should just pick the dungeon they wanna play and get the same rewards as the roulette.

    Thats the difference here, people that are here demanding a change, ACTIVELY decide to play roulette, a random dungeon
    But in cheesing the system, that is not random at all, anymore.

    You are NOT choosing Roulette because of that, you want the incentive, which is legit, but by cheesing this stuff, the experience for others is greatly decreased. You understand that, right?
    I'll care when SE starts caring and scale the rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    I personally would rather spend 60 minutes in something interesting and difficult, than 10 minutes of something that is dull and boring. Thats my 2 cents and I know a handful that think so, too.
    Problem with that is some of the Alliance Raids are a minimum of 30 minutes and are rather dull and boring. Worst offender of this is Ridorana Lighthouse, you could take all the bosses there and cut their health by half and they'd still get to do all their mechanics with how long it takes for them to go down...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    Good, thats how it should be! Players should choose what they want. If you ask me, I all for it, that people should just pick the dungeon they wanna play and get the same rewards as the roulette.

    Thats the difference here, people that are here demanding a change, ACTIVELY decide to play roulette, a random dungeon
    But in cheesing the system, that is not random at all, anymore.

    You are NOT choosing Roulette because of that, you want the incentive, which is legit, but by cheesing this stuff, the experience for others is greatly decreased. You understand that, right?
    If you really think that the majority of people would rather do the HW, SB and ShB raids over CT for a prolonged period of time and not just once in a while then you'd be surprised
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Problem with that is some of the Alliance Raids are a minimum of 30 minutes and are rather dull and boring. Worst offender of this is Ridorana Lighthouse, you could take all the bosses there and cut their health by half and they'd still get to do all their mechanics with how long it takes for them to go down...
    Ah, well thats a point I can get behind. Is that still the case after the number mumbo jumbo since Endwalker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RocciaSolida View Post
    If you really think that the majority of people would rather do the HW, SB and ShB raids over CT for a prolonged period of time and not just once in a while then you'd be surprised
    Like everyone, I can only speak for myself. I dont think, that crystal tower would dissappear from the roulette. Its just gonna be mixed better.

    I myself love the heavensward and Stormblood Raids, cant complain there. If it were just those, I could live with that.
    Others love the nier raids, its all a mix.

    Would it be too much to ask, that those people get the same treatment, as the crystal tower lovers?

    You seem to have lots of bad experience in that regard, is it really that bad when people wipe once or twice?
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