Can we please get rid of square and circle arenas for every trials and 8 men raids?

[kejakalope]

Man remember how interesting it was to fight Bismarck on an irregular turd-shaped rock? No?

There's some design room for like, pillars you hide behind and the like in some fights, sure, and even though it is ultimately a box, the Hippokampus fight has long phases where you're functionally restricted to a very limited track-- but ultimately there's only yea so much you can do with arena design other than add visual clutter to distract from the fight. They've tried stuff like the bridge in Ishgard with the towers and people largely hated it.

[kejakalope]

See that is the problem with this game's community. When someone presents a flaw in this game and gives feedback on how to improve it, the community's inferiority complex rises up.

Ain't nobody these days feeling inferior to WoW lol

[IdowhatIwant]

Say what you want about WoW but atleast that game knows how to make immersive raid environments. I am not saying FFXIV's raids are bad compared to WoW. The raids in this game are awesome with fantastic bosses and complex mechanics. But the main problem in this game is there are no raid environments compared to WoW. Like my favorite raids in WoW are Throne of Thunder, Siege of Orgrimmar, Blackrock Foundry, Hellfire Citadel and Icecrown Citadel not just because of the bosses and the lore but also because of the raid environments.

But the raids and trials in FFXIV have no environments, the fights take place in just a square or circle arena. That is why I can't remember the raids and trials by name. I can name the bosses because they are memorable but I can't remember the instance name because they have no environments.

So I request square enix and Yoshida, please ditch the square and circle arena for trials and raids and make actual raid environments.

All wow raid bosses were in a circular or rectangular room with few exceptions.

[Larirawiel]

All wow raid bosses were in a circular or rectangular room with few exceptions.

They were not. I have done WoW classic up to WotLK and there were many boss fights without a circle- or quare-like arena.

Cheers

[IdowhatIwant]

They were not. I have done WoW classic up to WotLK and there were many boss fights without a circle- or quare-like arena.

Cheers

So have I. And they were all mostly circles and squares. There are few examples I can think of that were not in a circle or rectangle arena. And I am thinking of fights all the way up through shadowlands.

The ones listed above Throne of Thunder, Siege of Orgrimmar, Blackrock Foundry, Hellfire Citadel and Icecrown Citadel every boss was in a circle or square room.

[Krotoan]

Why is it always WoW? Ya know, there are other mmos out there. People already play this game like addicts. Point?

Ask the guy who keeps referring to WoW in the posts I'm referencing? It wasn't me.

[Kandraxx]

I think I might have found out why it’s only circles in ahem..“competitive“ content and that’s because LoS-ing mobs in this game really can lead to hilarious outcomes. I had times when the mob completely forgot what he was doing and needed 1-2 sec to pick up again. Even melee mobs will do this.

Kiting and spinning them around is also much more effective than in WoW as they will do the same stuttering and it’s basically what you do to solo the deep dungeons.

[Larirawiel]

So have I. And they were all mostly circles and squares. There are few examples I can think of that were not in a circle or rectangle arena. And I am thinking of fights all the way up through shadowlands.

MC:

Lucifron, Magmadar, Gehennas, Geddon

BWL:

Lashlayer, Firemaw, Ebonroc, Flamegor

Naxxramas:

Patchwerk

AQ20:

Kurinnaxx, Rajaxx, Moam


No circles or squares. And this is WoW classic only.


Cheers

[IdowhatIwant]

Is what people should be saying to be more clear is they want some form of medium before the raid encounter. When people refer to the boss encounters particularly in MMOs they are almost always fought in a square or circular room.

[Neuron]

All wow raid bosses were in a circular or rectangular room with few exceptions.

You don't understand. I am talking about raid environments. Like for example Icecrown Citadel was a huge ice fortress of undead, Blackrock Foundry was a huge weapons producing factory, Siege of Orgrimmar was about raiding the capital city of the Horde, Hellfire Citadel was a giant fell castle full of demons and fell orcs, etc. Thats the environment I am talking about. In FFXIV those type of environments doesn't exist. We just queue for a raid in duty finder and get teleported to an circle or square arena.