Can we please get rid of square and circle arenas for every trials and 8 men raids?

[Neuron]

Say what you want about WoW but atleast that game knows how to make immersive raid environments. I am not saying FFXIV's raids are bad compared to WoW. The raids in this game are awesome with fantastic bosses and complex mechanics. But the main problem in this game is there are no raid environments compared to WoW. Like my favorite raids in WoW are Throne of Thunder, Siege of Orgrimmar, Blackrock Foundry, Hellfire Citadel and Icecrown Citadel not just because of the bosses and the lore but also because of the raid environments.

But the raids and trials in FFXIV have no environments, the fights take place in just a square or circle arena. That is why I can't remember the raids and trials by name. I can name the bosses because they are memorable but I can't remember the instance name because they have no environments.

So I request square enix and Yoshida, please ditch the square and circle arena for trials and raids and make actual raid environments.

[DrFlesh]

can't do that sadly because they are so low in creativity that not having the "deadly barrier" outside a small square/circle would limit 50% of the mechanics

[Krotoan]

I hear the "we don't want squares and circles" claim a lot.


What do you want?

You want to kill trash in between?

You want to have to walk to where you fight?

you want whatever weirdness and lumpy wavy blobby arenas were in Coils?

All I hear is "NO SQUARES AND CIRCLES!".

[RitsukoSonoda]

I hear the "we don't want squares and circles" claim a lot.


What do you want?

You want to kill trash in between?

You want to have to walk to where you fight?

you want whatever weirdness and lumpy wavy blobby arenas were in Coils?

All I hear is "NO SQUARES AND CIRCLES!".

You left out the option of "You want WoW?"

[Krotoan]

You left out the option of "You want WoW?"

That's still pretty unspecific. IIRC most wow encounters kept you in a debatably circular or square arena. If it's like.. a heart shape is that better? A donut?

[Neuron]

You left out the option of "You want WoW?"

See that is the problem with this game's community. When someone presents a flaw in this game and gives feedback on how to improve it, the community's inferiority complex rises up.

[DrFlesh]

I hear the "we don't want squares and circles" claim a lot.


What do you want?

You want to kill trash in between?

You want to have to walk to where you fight?

you want whatever weirdness and lumpy wavy blobby arenas were in Coils?

All I hear is "NO SQUARES AND CIRCLES!".

lets see, i don't want squares and circles, i don't want knockback mechanics, i don't want "bright white light that breaks 40% of the platform"

and yeah... i would love to have "organic" arenas cob5 style again and not a perfect and polished square/circle

[Minsue]

I think they want a dungeon but as a raid?

[Krotoan]

I think they want a dungeon but as a raid?

That's what confuses me.. if you don't like the one boss raids, go do like.. alliance stuff. There's lots of variety out there.

lets see, i don't want squares and circles, i don't want knockback mechanics, i don't want "bright white light that breaks 40% of the platform"

and yeah... i would love to have "organic" arenas fcob5 style again and not a perfect and polished square/circle

So the problem is actually just that a circle or square is.. unbelievable? Annoyingly symmetrical?

Is the problem REALLY just people want weirder shapes of battlegrounds?

I don't think I'd mind weirder shapes of arenas, but it does make you wonder if they had them in the past why did that stop. It's not like they haven't made them dynamic or changing either. Just cause the arena stays square or circular, doesn't mean the playable and safe surface does. If you visually need the arena to be dynamic I'm sure that can be done.

So I request square enix and Yoshida, please ditch the square and circle arena for trials and raids and make actual raid environments.

So.. what constitutes an "actual raid environment"?

[iheartlove42]

Have you not done Alliance Raids yet?