Other MMOs and their History

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Since WoW was the dominant MMO for a while, the FFXIV community developed a bit of an inferiority complex and has been overcompensating ever since.

When a community gets too evangelical about a game, it's developers can ignore deficiencies.

This is a very vocal minority. The community would be a very different place if the game was commonly treated like some sort of religion. Most people just want to play a good game.

And lets be honest here while WoW has some great things that FF could learn from and adapt for itself, some ex-WoW players come to the forums to suggest major changes that would make FF little different to WoW. They clearly don't want to be playing FF if that's what they're asking for. I'm fine with people preferring something but to essentially complain that FF isn't WoW is just silly. This unsurprisingly never gets a good reaction from players who enjoy FF hugely because it isn't WoW. And all this just feeds the stupid tribalism.

I came from WoW and while it has some things I would like to see in FF, it has other things that would be extremely concerning to me if they came to FF. But I don't like this WoW vs FF train. I would prefer for multiple successful mmorpgs to compete with one another because competition drives innovation. And I would like all of these games to be distinct because everything being the same is boring.

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This is a very vocal minority. The community would be a very different place if the game was commonly treated like some sort of religion. Most people just want to play a good game.

And lets be honest here while WoW has some great things that FF could learn from and adapt for itself, some ex-WoW players come to the forums to suggest major changes that would make FF little different to WoW. They clearly don't want to be playing FF if that's what they're asking for. I'm fine with people preferring something but to essentially complain that FF isn't WoW is just silly. This unsurprisingly never gets a good reaction from players who enjoy FF hugely because it isn't WoW. And all this just feeds the stupid tribalism.

I came from WoW and while it has some things I would like to see in FF, it has other things that would be extremely concerning to me if they came to FF. But I don't like this WoW vs FF train. I would prefer for multiple successful mmorpgs to compete with one another because competition drives innovation. And I would like all of these games to be distinct because everything being the same is boring.

As an ex WoW vet myself whos been playing since ARR, I agree, I went back for Legoin, BFA, and Shadowlands, and as a whole the way some systems were handled would be great for FF. I've personally been wanting PvP to be handled similar to how WoW does, smaller groups, more dedicated game types and its just a quick play where you can get any of them over having to wait a specific times of the day to even get the macth you want. I've always personally thought that would make PvPing more fun, along with more rewards being added.

I can also in the same breath say that yeah I don;t want XiV to become WoW, I just want some things to be handled in similar ways to that the game feels more varied. I would also like for some of the newer MMO players to learn about how MMOs got here, and to not just kinda mindlessly go with the vocal minority when it comes to XIV and WoW