Dark Knight Sustain/QoL needs to be addressed.

[Valknut]

Dark Knight is usually saving MP for their timed burst, 60s, or 2 Min bursts, they usually have a free TBN laying about, except refreshing Darkside timers if it's low on time, this is their advantage for a power shield to keep raid mates alive, or allowing a DPS to survive a mechanic than burning Swiftcast rez.

Is that still true though, NIN is no longer revolving the fight around their CD's as NIN is in a bad spot. So with 120 sec buff rotations you'd have a lot of room to push DPS and blow mana if you felt like it. Either or mitigation in 8 man parties is a none issue, healers all have 20% or more, and tanks have invulns/OTs cd's as well for non shared busters. If any of these were big issues guides for extremes and savage wouldn't be telling me " Press X button at X time, continue to drool on your keyboard"

None of this is about can every tank do all content, of course they all can. But when I go to hit my DF and think " Should I bring PLD or DRK, I feel like playing DRK.... but should I? That's the problem, because you know you can carry a group easily on the other 3 tanks, or solo 1/3rd of a bosses hp without worry, on DRK thats not so much true.

At the end of the day they said they would never make content harder then TEA, and that seems pretty true to everything I have experienced. So if were all just playing weaker and weaker content we really don't have anything other then QoL on tanks to complain about.

[Aluja89]

The Living Dead effect should be on Holmgang. For one, a Holmgang is a fight to the death. Second, WAR is the only job that can put out the sort of self-healing required to cleanse it. Third, they have the shortest recast invuln, so that should be what takes the penalty, not the longer recast one that is already at a disadvantage.

How about we get rid of that terrible design all together instead of doubling it.

Your suggestion would make me never use my sustain unless I know I'm dying, that's just awful design.

[Lyth]

Holmgang shouldn't be on a shorter recast as long as Living Dead has a penalty attached. End of.

[Aluja89]

Holmgang shouldn't be on a shorter recast as long as Living Dead has a penalty attached. End of.

Spoken like someone who only plays DRK and DRK only for its aesthetics.

Imagine being so petty wanting another job to be bad because your edgy class is trash.

[Agner]

I'm not fully on the side of giving this cursed CD to anyone, even WAR, but surely you must realize how ridiculous it sounds when you say you'd never use your... two 90s abilities which give heals (obviously don't use SiO for that, though) , a 60s ability which gives a heal + HoT, and a 25s ability which heals with hits unless you use a 240s CD ability, right? You'd know when to use it, anyways. Rationing it out wouldn't be that difficult.

I'd say WAR has a much easier chance of handling it with leniency and would even make the terribleness of it more fun, but I'd still prefer the devs just get more creative about the whole thing. Lore is kind of a horrible excuse given how much of DRK they've disemboweled.

[Lyth]

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No, this is just common sense. Presently, Holmgang is unilaterally better than Living Dead. That's a really poor design decision for an ultimate defensive ability. Either Holmgang should be on a longer recast than Living Dead, or Holmgang should have the penalty to justify the shorter recast. Between the two, the latter actually benefits WAR better, because they can keep their recast advantage at relatively minimal cost given the absurd amount of burst healing that they have.

[Aluja89]

I'm not fully on the side of giving this cursed CD to anyone, even WAR, but surely you must realize how ridiculous it sounds when you say you'd never use your... two 90s abilities which give heals (obviously don't use SiO for that, though) , a 60s ability which gives a heal + HoT, and a 25s ability which heals with hits unless you use a 240s CD ability, right? You'd know when to use it, anyways. Rationing it out wouldn't be that difficult.

I'd say WAR has a much easier chance of handling it with leniency and would even make the terribleness of it more fun, but I'd still prefer the devs just get more creative about the whole thing. Lore is kind of a horrible excuse given how much of DRK they've disemboweled.

Obviously, but context always matters. I can't think of a situation where I would trust my healers so those skills are going to be selfishly safe guarded most of the time, I've died far too many times to Living Dead than I've been cured from, so lesson learned. Also why is everyone acting like Holmgang doesn't have a limitation? It's limited by its range and I've died a bunch of times because of that, not as many times as LD but still.

Besides why would a Warrior keel over after winning its fight? In DRK's case Esteem takes over a corpse and your body has to be fully recovered for you to get back to a warm body.

[Kabooa]

Obviously, but context always matters. I can't think of a situation where I would trust my healers so those skills are going to be selfishly safe guarded most of the time, I've died far too many times to Living Dead than I've been cured from. Also why is everyone acting like Holmgang doesn't have a limitation? It's limited by its range and I've died a bunch of times because of that, not as many times as LD but still.

Besides why would a Warrior keel over after winning its fight? In DRK's case Esteem takes over a corpse and your body has to be fully recovered for you to get back to a warm body.

Holmgang has no range if you untarget the enemy.

[Aluja89]

No, this is just common sense. Presently, Holmgang is unilaterally better than Living Dead. That's a really poor design decision for an ultimate defensive ability. Either Holmgang should be on a longer recast than Living Dead, or Holmgang should have the penalty to justify the shorter recast. Between the two, the latter actually benefits WAR better, because they can keep their recast advantage at relatively minimal cost given the absurd amount of burst healing that they have.

I'm not debating that, I know Holmgang is better. I'm asking you why would you even entertain the thought to transfer that shit over to WAR?

Holmgang has no range if you untarget the enemy.

Yeah that's difficult during heat of the moment lol

[Lyth]

It would seem that WAR is heading towards some significant self-healing nerfs. I would have thought that this would be an appropriate way to offset those, while restoring balance to tank invulns at the same time. The 'penalty' would be trivial to manage on WAR.