Pandaemonium.... way too easy. The good, the bad and the ugly

[Conundrum]

-claps my hands- so original not

I don't think anyone can accuse FFXIV of being original. It pains me to say it but...

I hate that this game spends so much time referencing previous FF games. This is the only FF game I have played and spent any time on and it get so irritating hearing people talk about how cool it is that X is a reference to FF##. Kinda makes those of us who haven't played every FF game since the beginning of time feel like we aren't really in the club. Usually pointing this out gets you a lot of hate from the "great community".

How about new and REAL original content. Not more crap from FF4 or whatever.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

I don't think anyone can accuse FFXIV of being original. It pains me to say it but...

I hate that this game spends so much time referencing previous FF games. This is the only FF game I have played and spent any time on and it get so irritating hearing people talk about how cool it is that X is a reference to FF##. Kinda makes those of us who haven't played every FF game since the beginning of time feel like we aren't really in the club. Usually pointing this out gets you a lot of hate from the "great community".

How about new and REAL original content. Not more crap from FF4 or whatever.

Meanwhile I'm sitting here clapping every time we get a past FF reference. I like it when they pay homage to what came before. Ivalice, Omega, Gilgamesh, Eden, all the FF4 content in Endwalker. I adore it. Some of my favorite content, to be honest.

But to each their own.

[Conundrum]

Meanwhile I'm sitting here clapping every time we get a past FF reference. I like it when they pay homage to what came before. Ivalice, Omega, Gilgamesh, Eden, all the FF4 content in Endwalker. I adore it. Some of my favorite content, to be honest.

But to each their own.

I fully support easter eggs.

What I'm talking about is basing huge chunks of content on it, like those things you mentioned. I mean seriously, an entire expansion based on a previous game and not just any expansion, the end of your 10 year story?? And not original content? They should be embarrassed to do that. So many raids being based on previous games that they actually made a big deal about the 6.0 raids being actually original. Really think about that for a second...they had to brag that their new end of story content is original. Again, they should be embarrassed. Also, playing to nostalgia is a cheap gimmick when you're afraid your original content can't stand on it's own.

I'd say "that's what all these old companies do", and that is true, but more and more it seem that anyone who has made even a single game start doing some pointless references if they make a new game, regardless of how ill fitting it is for the situation and/or the world, not to mention how it usually comes out of the blue for no apparent rhyme or reason or relevance to the story at hand. Even more ludicrous is the fact that people always "love" when they do that, and for the life of me i can't figure out why.

Take heart that SE recyclers at least might attempt to make it fit into their world. Might attempt with varying success.

Like I said, easter eggs and the occasional wink or nudge is one thing, but they make entire huge chunks of content based on the old games. I honestly don't know of any unrelated games that do it that shamelessly.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

I don't think anyone can accuse FFXIV of being original. It pains me to say it but...

I hate that this game spends so much time referencing previous FF games. This is the only FF game I have played and spent any time on and it get so irritating hearing people talk about how cool it is that X is a reference to FF##. Kinda makes those of us who haven't played every FF game since the beginning of time feel like we aren't really in the club. Usually pointing this out gets you a lot of hate from the "great community".

How about new and REAL original content. Not more crap from FF4 or whatever.

I'd say "that's what all these old companies do", and that is true, but more and more it seem that anyone who has made even a single game start doing some pointless references if they make a new game, regardless of how ill fitting it is for the situation and/or the world, not to mention how it usually comes out of the blue for no apparent rhyme or reason or relevance to the story at hand. Even more ludicrous is the fact that people always "love" when they do that, and for the life of me i can't figure out why.

Take heart that SE recyclers at least might attempt to make it fit into their world. Might attempt with varying success.

[FusiaRain]

I don't think anyone can accuse FFXIV of being original. It pains me to say it but...

I hate that this game spends so much time referencing previous FF games. This is the only FF game I have played and spent any time on and it get so irritating hearing people talk about how cool it is that X is a reference to FF##. Kinda makes those of us who haven't played every FF game since the beginning of time feel like we aren't really in the club. Usually pointing this out gets you a lot of hate from the "great community".

How about new and REAL original content. Not more crap from FF4 or whatever.

they said they would make the raids and stuff original to 14 instend of it being rehashed

[Conundrum]

They should be embarrassed!? Sorry, I can't say I share your sentiment in the slightest.

Copied nostalgia sells to FF fans, guess they know their audience. Pretty much any other fandom gets pissed if a lot is copied from previous games.

they said they would make the raids and stuff original

They said the new alliance raid was original, that doesn't change the almost comical amount of unoriginal content already added, including previous raids and trials.

[Jybril]

I don't think anyone can accuse FFXIV of being original. It pains me to say it but...

I hate that this game spends so much time referencing previous FF games. This is the only FF game I have played and spent any time on and it get so irritating hearing people talk about how cool it is that X is a reference to FF##. Kinda makes those of us who haven't played every FF game since the beginning of time feel like we aren't really in the club. Usually pointing this out gets you a lot of hate from the "great community".

How about new and REAL original content. Not more crap from FF4 or whatever.

Well, if you haven't played the others then this content is literally new to you lol.

[Conundrum]

Well, if you haven't played the others then this content is literally new to you lol.

The point, you missed it.

[Jybril]

The point, you missed it.

I can see how originality is lacking, but I even said that myself years ago. Almost the entire game is FF nostalgia trip but the people like it.

Though, I just find it funny you complain because others saying "Cool, a FF# reference!" and you don't get it. So technically for you, it's new and original lol.

[Conundrum]

I can see how originality is lacking, but I even said that myself years ago. Almost the entire game is FF nostalgia trip but the people like it.

Though, I just find it funny you complain because others saying "Cool, a FF# reference!" and you don't get it. So technically for you, it's new and original lol.

Except when people are declaring what all the lore is because it was this way in some previous game. Male Viera are the most recent victims of this.

Also, just saying "oh it's new to you" isn't really addressing the issue.