Pandaemonium.... way too easy. The good, the bad and the ugly

[Havenchild]

really ~_~

lets look exdeath even on normal gave issues

keflca gave issues

twintaina gave issues

alexander (goby dude gave issues first time)

many fights in alpha and delescape were hard on normal mode

dog boy,ramuha,titan,shiva the gaia thing in shadowbringer WERE ALL HARD even on normal mode lol

normal mode zodiark was hard, normal mode hydlayn was hard ( i enjoyed it) but you know that is bullshit so why you use it like its true

Almost none of the fights you mentioned were even remotely difficult on their normal / hard mode and to say otherwise is either trolling or you just like making a mockery of yourself.

Twintania shouldn't even be considered alongside the rest. But that's just it, difficulty is also subjective.

Come back on Jan 11th with your Savage tier clear (1 week) and then talk about it's too easy.

You remind me of one of those people they claim Vishap was hard prenerf, meanwhile it was just a striking dummy with literally only 1 of the two end missles needing to be executed correctly lololol

[FusiaRain]

Almost none of the fights you mentioned were even remotely difficult on on there normal / hard mode and to say otherwise is either trolling or you just like making a mockery of yourself.

Twintania shouldn't even be considered alongside the rest. But that's just it, difficulty is also subjective.

Come back on Jan 11th with your Savage tier clear (1 week) and then talk about it's too easy.

You remind me of one of those people they claim Vishap was hard prenerf, meanwhile it was just a striking dummy with literally only 1 of the two end missles needing to be executed correctly lololol

lol your trolling if you think titan in shadowbringers wasn't hard in normal and so many people died in Ramuh from the same thing, then the dog thing with the shadows confussed the hell out of people..

Keflca killed many people many many many many people when it came out as did ex death lol

also the difference is im not complaing that they were hard (because they were)

I enjoy that also... AV is my favoirt dungeon which is legitly the hardiest dungeon in the entire game the others are huge jokes lol its only easy because been nerfed/ and with the level and higher gear.

also i did vishap on day one lol it was really fun (hard yes for many partys) but it was fun non the less..

the only way you can die in the current raids is if you are brain dead or not paying attention lol they are defly 100% easier than past fights and zodiark with the rotations was a harder fight than all the pandi raids at once.

edit also you really comparing it to something that had many failed clears when it first came out (which made it fun) but you sound like someone who didn't do it on day one lol bet you say the same thing about demon wall don't you when it use to spawn the flying bugs.

[Havenchild]

lol your trolling if you think titan in shadowbringers wasn't hard in normal and so many people died in Ramuh from the same thing, then the dog thing with the shadows confussed the hell out of people..

Keflca killed many people many many many many people when it came out as did ex death lol

also the difference is im not complaing that they were hard (because they were)

I enjoy that also... AV is my favoirt dungeon which is legitly the hardiest dungeon in the entire game the others are huge jokes lol its only easy because been nerfed/ and with the level and higher gear.

also i did vishap on day one lol it was really fun (hard yes for many partys) but it was fun non the less..

the only way you can die in the current raids is if you are brain dead or not paying attention lol they are defly 100% easier than past fights and zodiark with the rotations was a harder fight than all the pandi raids at once.

edit also you really comparing it to something that had many failed clears when it first came out (which made it fun) but you sound like someone who didn't do it on day one lol bet you say the same thing about demon wall don't you when it use to spawn the flying bugs.

Again, difficulty is subjective. I've done all of these fights when they first came out as evidence by *gasp* my join date and achievement logs. None of them were difficult for me as well many others who literally all cleared it when they first came out ALL the same on PF / DF.
The normal fights are a joke with the occasional *oops* moment where an AoE goes off that shouldn't have at best. If you are struggling or found any struggle with them, it's likely because you are either A) Bad or B) not really experienced enough with the game. You can pick which category you want to be a part of idc but you are severely overhyping past normal fights.

[FusiaRain]

Again, difficulty is subjective. I've done all of these fights when they first came out as evidence by *gasp* my join date and achievement logs. None of them were difficult for me as well many others who literally all cleared it when they first came out ALL the same on PF / DF.
The normal fights are a joke with the occasional *oops* moment where an AoE goes off that shouldn't have at best. If you are struggling or found any struggle with them, it's likely because you are either A) Bad or B) not really experienced enough with the game. You can pick which category you want to be a part of idc but you are severely overhyping past normal fights.

join date doesn't mean you were subed during the time it came out lol

am I say normal fights were extremely diffuclt no I'm not

but I am saying normal fights use to be a little challenging not gaint ass jokes like they been in endwalker. Nor Am I saying they should be savage tier hard core content.

What i am saying is they need to be less brain rot like they use to be

Stormblood trails hd a good balance of it with escape mech you could fail and die in, duty actions that required the right timing or dead.....

if you think that isn't true then do a compare an contrast you will see that it is obviously the truth. they obviosely dumbed down fights in endwalker just by the fact thy didn't use the time limit button thing or the duty actions

[Rolder50]

if you think that isn't true then do a compare an contrast you will see that it is obviously the truth. they obviosely dumbed down fights in endwalker just by the fact thy didn't use the time limit button thing or the duty actions

Lets be real, the QTE button mashes and extra duty buttons don't really contribute anything in terms of difficulty. Not that normal matters regardless.

[Conundrum]

-claps my hands- so original not

I don't think anyone can accuse FFXIV of being original. It pains me to say it but...

I hate that this game spends so much time referencing previous FF games. This is the only FF game I have played and spent any time on and it get so irritating hearing people talk about how cool it is that X is a reference to FF##. Kinda makes those of us who haven't played every FF game since the beginning of time feel like we aren't really in the club. Usually pointing this out gets you a lot of hate from the "great community".

How about new and REAL original content. Not more crap from FF4 or whatever.

[Conundrum]

FFXIV is never going to be a hardcore raiding game, if you want that, that other game is over there. Squenix knows which side their bread is buttered on, and it's not hardcore raiders or PvPers for that matter. It's the same reason at the end of the expansion the BiS from hardcore content is only slightly better than the 2nd BiS gear from far more casual friendly content. They have shown that they have no interest catering overly to raiders. They also know the same thing all of us long time MMO players know. The minute you start catering to the hardcores they will start demanding all the cool stuff ONLY come from hardcore content. You can try to deny it, but I've seen the pattern repeated for over 20 years.

And on the off chance they ever did go insane and start trying to become a raider game like that other game...or even hint at moving that way.

My time in Eorzea would be over, I'm not going to pay them to be a second class citizen.

And I doubt I would be alone.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

I don't think anyone can accuse FFXIV of being original. It pains me to say it but...

I hate that this game spends so much time referencing previous FF games. This is the only FF game I have played and spent any time on and it get so irritating hearing people talk about how cool it is that X is a reference to FF##. Kinda makes those of us who haven't played every FF game since the beginning of time feel like we aren't really in the club. Usually pointing this out gets you a lot of hate from the "great community".

How about new and REAL original content. Not more crap from FF4 or whatever.

Meanwhile I'm sitting here clapping every time we get a past FF reference. I like it when they pay homage to what came before. Ivalice, Omega, Gilgamesh, Eden, all the FF4 content in Endwalker. I adore it. Some of my favorite content, to be honest.

But to each their own.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

I don't think anyone can accuse FFXIV of being original. It pains me to say it but...

I hate that this game spends so much time referencing previous FF games. This is the only FF game I have played and spent any time on and it get so irritating hearing people talk about how cool it is that X is a reference to FF##. Kinda makes those of us who haven't played every FF game since the beginning of time feel like we aren't really in the club. Usually pointing this out gets you a lot of hate from the "great community".

How about new and REAL original content. Not more crap from FF4 or whatever.

I'd say "that's what all these old companies do", and that is true, but more and more it seem that anyone who has made even a single game start doing some pointless references if they make a new game, regardless of how ill fitting it is for the situation and/or the world, not to mention how it usually comes out of the blue for no apparent rhyme or reason or relevance to the story at hand. Even more ludicrous is the fact that people always "love" when they do that, and for the life of me i can't figure out why.

Take heart that SE recyclers at least might attempt to make it fit into their world. Might attempt with varying success.

[Conundrum]

Meanwhile I'm sitting here clapping every time we get a past FF reference. I like it when they pay homage to what came before. Ivalice, Omega, Gilgamesh, Eden, all the FF4 content in Endwalker. I adore it. Some of my favorite content, to be honest.

But to each their own.

I fully support easter eggs.

What I'm talking about is basing huge chunks of content on it, like those things you mentioned. I mean seriously, an entire expansion based on a previous game and not just any expansion, the end of your 10 year story?? And not original content? They should be embarrassed to do that. So many raids being based on previous games that they actually made a big deal about the 6.0 raids being actually original. Really think about that for a second...they had to brag that their new end of story content is original. Again, they should be embarrassed. Also, playing to nostalgia is a cheap gimmick when you're afraid your original content can't stand on it's own.

I'd say "that's what all these old companies do", and that is true, but more and more it seem that anyone who has made even a single game start doing some pointless references if they make a new game, regardless of how ill fitting it is for the situation and/or the world, not to mention how it usually comes out of the blue for no apparent rhyme or reason or relevance to the story at hand. Even more ludicrous is the fact that people always "love" when they do that, and for the life of me i can't figure out why.

Take heart that SE recyclers at least might attempt to make it fit into their world. Might attempt with varying success.

Like I said, easter eggs and the occasional wink or nudge is one thing, but they make entire huge chunks of content based on the old games. I honestly don't know of any unrelated games that do it that shamelessly.