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  1. #33301
    Player
    DontReadThis's Avatar
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    Bare Bear
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    Midgardsormr
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Was doing experts on my SCH for quick tomestones for my alt jobs.

    There shouldn't be any spoilers here... but just in case:

    Got into the final story dungeon.
    No first timers, so I expect everyone to have at least some basic knowledge of the boss mechanics.

    Everything seems to go smoothly as we clear to the first boss.
    He does his attack with the wind pushing the aoe circles, so the tank and I go to the safe corner upwind. Unfortunately, the DPS do not follow us, and they instead prioritize landing their positionals over dodging the circles, so they get hit... multiple times, and they instantly die.
    I raise them, and when the wind mechanic happens again, they die again. I raise them yet again, the wind mechanic happens yet again, and they die yet again, despite the tank repeatedly yelling to come to the safe corner upwind.
    Well, we kill the boss, and they then blame their deaths on the tank for moving the boss to the corner (the one where you don't have to move at all during the winds...).

    We clear to second boss, and they once again drop like flies. This time it's the very first mechanic that gets them. I spend the vast majority of the fight raising them, only for them to instantly die because they used an attack (removing transcendence) while standing in an AoE, sometimes multiple AoE's at once. I raise one of them AGAIN, and while I'm busy raising the other one, the first is running to the front of the boss and gets hit by tankbuster laser, dying instantly.
    Needless to say, that fight took much longer than it should have. Thankfully, they had no excuses for their deaths this time.

    We clear to the final boss, and it goes just as well as you'd imagine. They would get hit by the butterfly beams, they chased the boss as he jumped around instead of just waiting next to the first circle, and they would not move when the boss prepared its glowing wing attack which would strike half the arena.
    Once again, I ran out of MP raising them, so I just left them on the ground as the tank and I slowly whittled down the boss's health.

    ...And that's when I decided not to heal experts anymore.


    Now for an unrelated story which happened today:
    Queue into Mt. Gulg as dancer.
    The tank pulls as much as he can, and he dies.
    Everyone then starts running back to the entrance.
    As the tank is respawning, I die. Then the other dps dies.
    The tank respawns and gets back into the action.
    The entire party then spends the next several minutes getting spawn camped as we repeatedly respawn and get killed.
    After what feels like an eternity, we kill everything.

    The run then proceeds as normal, but that was something I will never forget.
    (4)

  2. #33302
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    ijuakos_xqwzts's Avatar
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    Erin Grayfox
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    Yesterday, attempted Garuda/Ifrit. Had one DPS run away from me while trying to stack Air Bump. Also, had a tank get targeted with the attack. I stood next to him while trying to resurrect and, last second, he runs away from me (still casting; swiftcast was on cooldown). Oh, and peeps kept stacking Storm of Fury. We ended up voting dismiss after 3 or 4 wipes; even after explaining the mechanics, peeps kept screwing it up.
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  3. #33303
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Was literally just about to finish a dungeon and give a commendation to the healer... and then they rescue me out of nothing. No commendation from me anymore!



    Again, I appreciate the thought, but stop, please. Seriously.
    (3)
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  4. #33304
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Was literally just about to finish a dungeon and give a commendation to the healer... and then they rescue me out of nothing. No commendation from me anymore!



    Again, I appreciate the thought, but stop, please. Seriously.
    I rescued a RDM in Ruby Weapon the other day from the Six Malms Under mechanic, where you stand on the raised bits left from the claws to survive, and then everyone proceeded to let me die when the two stack markers came up after that. Everyone was in the other marker. I didn't even get a comm for having rescued the RDM who was literally up to their hat in the ground.
    (4)

  5. #33305
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    Meillquei's Avatar
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    Character
    Cillien Temperlain
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Happy story to share!
    Did leveling roulette as my 90 AST, ended up getting Sastasha *groan*
    Upon entering, our sprout Thaumaturge says "My first dungeon " My heart just about melted right there.
    This thaumaturge did a great job. He followed his rotation, knew when to AOE, and even knew to use the limit break on the last boss. Not a single cause for complaint. He ended up getting my commendation. Unfortunately, he left before I could tell him he did a good job.
    (7)
    Follow the light.
    Cillien Temperlain <Lover of Bunny Boys>
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    you are the sweetest thing in here, only spreading positiv vibes around here <3

  6. #33306
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I rescued a RDM in Ruby Weapon the other day from the Six Malms Under mechanic, where you stand on the raised bits left from the claws to survive, and then everyone proceeded to let me die when the two stack markers came up after that. Everyone was in the other marker. I didn't even get a comm for having rescued the RDM who was literally up to their hat in the ground.
    When it's used the right way - preventing a players death, or similar, sure it's a good use. I just find it to be 9/10 being used where it isn't necessary. If I was going to die (or close to), and someone is to save me from that, I am not going to withhold a comm or anything. It's just all these other constant uses of it, that I've been seeing lately, and I have no idea why people have recently decided to start using it so often in the first place.

    I know exactly how it feels to get no commendations, after thinking you did everything right. It may have not even been your use of rescue that annoyed these players. I have saved runs as a healer, and I get nothing. For example, when the new raids first came out, I died two different times due to me at the very last minute using a heal LB3 to save the party from a wipe. Did I get any commendations? Nope!
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 12-24-2021 at 03:54 AM.
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  7. #33307
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    Breezelyn's Avatar
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    Ishmael Moridel
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    What is with tanks being allergic to using their defensive cooldowns? I'm running more and more into these types, ever since Endwalker dropped. This wasn't too much of a problem BEFORE expansion drop. I don't understand...
    This across all my characters/alts on Aether, primal, and crystal. It's not just one data center either? It's rather frustrating to heal lately because of this.
    Not all are like this-- I've run into rather decent tanks across the board. It's just the type allergic to cds are becoming more commonplace.
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  8. #33308
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    Packetdancer's Avatar
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Breezelyn View Post
    What is with tanks being allergic to using their defensive cooldowns? I'm running more and more into these types, ever since Endwalker dropped. This wasn't too much of a problem BEFORE expansion drop. I don't understand...
    I think it's a combination of two separate things.
    1. Folks have gotten used to massively outgearing everything at the end of Shadowbringers; there are some tanks who have played fast and loose with mitigations without consequence there, and are discovering that behavior doesn't fly when the expansion is brand-new.
    2. There are a surprising number of inexperienced tanks who see "Tank in need" constantly across all roulettes and go "OKAY I'LL LEVEL A TANK THEN".
    (3)
    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  9. #33309
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    Breezelyn's Avatar
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    Ishmael Moridel
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    Maduin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    I think it's a combination of two separate things.
    1. Folks have gotten used to massively outgearing everything at the end of Shadowbringers; there are some tanks who have played fast and loose with mitigations without consequence there, and are discovering that behavior doesn't fly when the expansion is brand-new.
    2. There are a surprising number of inexperienced tanks who see "Tank in need" constantly across all roulettes and go "OKAY I'LL LEVEL A TANK THEN".
    That's a fair assessment of the situation. Still think it's common sense to use defensive mitigations, when big pulling regardless if it was 'without consequence'. I'm leveling tank off and on currently, and even I try to use cds when I can. It's just becoming a nightmare to heal certain parties, due to this becoming more and more common. ><
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  10. #33310
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    Windfire's Avatar
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    Suri Obinata
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    Seraph
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Breezelyn View Post
    What is with tanks being allergic to using their defensive cooldowns? I'm running more and more into these types, ever since Endwalker dropped. This wasn't too much of a problem BEFORE expansion drop. I don't understand...
    Not just not use defensives but ofter way under geared too, I got Stone Vigil last night with a PLD in mostly 30 & below stuff, who for added bonus decided they could pull EVERYTHING... Yeah I was not a happy SCH
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