Help to those wasting time trying to love changes they didn't want

[Shuuli]

Haven't had an issue with either Bard or Summoner so far. Definitely not "boring", so I suspect OP has a greatly different idea about boredom.

SMN took some time getting used to the new rotations, but it isn't like it was ever more than 'hit the pretty proc'd icon' for more damage before. Akh-Morn is a wonder to behold against same-level foes.

BRD is a bit more 'hit the pretty proc'd icon', but now ... songs! They buff the Bard as well as the rest of the party. O frabjous day! < and there was much chortling >

Getting bored with a class just, well, it happens. That's why leveling more than one job via MSQ and side-quest works so well. At least we don't have to level each job on a separate character -- just remembering leveling every single WoW job (both Alliance and Horde side) to level 110 on different characters was a lesson in boredom.

I am a summoner main myself and ran the two extreme trials for mount farming with summoner only... (with a few exception of scholar on the first trial). And oh boi does it get boring to spam summoner rotation... and our dmg is so poor i feel bad for my team... but its fine cause at least i know the mechanics

With summoner you basically click the same 2 button on trials all the time, besides the times when you activate your summones and put on your added dmg or shield abilities...

[Kolsykol]

As much as I hate the removal of positionals and so many ogcds on MNK.
The balance issues atm is my greatest concern.

It's not that I don't think they'll solve it, it's just that it feels trash that more low effort Jobs can pull huge numbers even with mistakes than other Jobs that are currently too low.
I don't think it should be like this at launch either it just feels terrible always knowing that you could just play the fotm easy mode and pull significantly bigger numbers.

Edit:

Monk now runs a static rotation with fast speed and off the gcds. People who don't believe me try putting your beast gauge off in the corner using hud layout. Now run your STATIC rotation double phoenix opener. Yep, class is identical to pre endwalker except no positional.

Btw this isn't true at all lol...
What you're saying here is just ridiculous.

[ServantNaoya]

As an old SMN main, can agree, I'm still crying on the inside. I did like MNK in ShB, haven't spent enough time with new MNK to really say how I feel about it though.

[anhaato]

I really hate that BRD can be called simple now... it wasn't supposed to be like this... I'm trying really hard to appreciate the support we give now and our """consistency""" but man it feels like shit compared to the rapid fire procs of yesterpatch.

[Grimoire-M]

Personally playing NIN because SMN's identity got trashed by people who do not and will never get why it sucks. Ninja is not much better. Raijus need a major tune-up to be made friendly to new and old players alike. I thought Ifrit's forced dash was bad, but two back to back is SO much worse it's not even funny.

I'd still rather play NIN over SMN right now because Frustrating > Boring and Mechanics that respect Job Identity > Mechanics that limit Job identity. Raiju is literally my only complaint with NIN, but it still fits the job (with the right tweaks). Whereas with SMN it's everything mechanically wrong with the prior iterations put into a rework that utterly abandons what little DID work.

I also agree Bard and Monk suck now. The Repertoire change managed to make Bard even more boring while Monk still hasn't found its cohesion yet. PB is bizarre yet also bland. I would literally rather have the old versions of both back.

I think the only DPS that I'd even want to play right now that wasn't harmed in some manner by the changes was BLM. Which says a lot about Endwalker's shift in direction.

[Ash_]

I got tired of trying to accept the direction they have been taking NIN, and jumped all into MNK after experimenting with it in ShB. I'm actually glad to see positionals reduced and it feels good to be using a fast melee again. I just couldn't accept raiju and spending more of my time casting then stabbing. It's taken a while to 'get' the new MNK rotation though, and I'm still not quite there yet.

And this is probably the lesson - not enjoying the changes? Try something else.

[Bhearil]

I got tired of trying to accept the direction they have been taking NIN, and jumped all into MNK after experimenting with it in ShB. I'm actually glad to see positionals reduced and it feels good to be using a fast melee again. I just couldn't accept raiju and spending more of my time casting then stabbing. It's taken a while to 'get' the new MNK rotation though, and I'm still not quite there yet.

And this is probably the lesson - not enjoying the changes? Try something else.

Thing is that is basically looking the other way in front of glaring issues until you reach the point where theres no job that is fun to you. I would prefer to not reach that level and theres more than a few jobs already that they are on a really bad state and dont mean numbers only.

SE really needs to step in and go to the basics: Make the game fun and diverse instead of offering X number of flavours of the same thing and call it a day

Lately the jobs are becoming more and more similar, which is good for those who like that exact type of gameplay, but that sucks for anyone else, plus even those who now like it will get bored eventually of it and they will have nothing different to try

For example considering that seems that Ninja and Monk player numbers are abysmal they should pay atention to them, moreso when Monk just had a rework and seemingly has floped hard

[jerome15]

Played dark knight in heavensward just to watch it get gutted in sb. Played monk in sb to watch it get gutted in shb. Played smn in shb until 5.4 monk changes and went back to monk (granted I played very little of shb because of the state monk was in). Watched both smn and monk get gutted in EW.

I refuse to level monk after these changes because I don't want them to be able to add another level 90 monk to their stats to try to call the job good. I'd love to play monk with positionals, but I'm playing reaper now. For some reason this expansion seems really low effort and with bad jobs to play this is becoming kinda not fun. I'm scared of how the next expansion is going to end up.

[disabled_hyena]

mained monk since i started playing, hell i didnt even touch another job until stb brought in sam. i still leveled monk to 90 first but im in the same boat now, im giving it up for reaper. i think im stuck on the feel of hw monk, i just cant force myself to play it anymore when reaper feels and plays more satisfying.

[Equitable_Remedy]

Y'all are way too bitter about a video game that you play in your leisure time. Maybe take a break and chill out for a minute; do something that you enjoy.

(If you enjoy swimming through bottomless pools of bitterness, then by all means continue you do you!)