Help to those wasting time trying to love changes they didn't want

[Jinno]

I spent a lot of time trying to like monk and have finally found a solution.

Many monk mains ( I mean mains not ''I run a roulette every other week'' ) are probably wondering.... I haven't made a single mistake on rotation in like 4 or 5 trials / dungeons. I'm... bored. Why?

New beast gauge is a static rotation recorder.

Monk prior to this ran a static rotation with fast speed, off the gcds AND positional.

Monk now runs a static rotation with fast speed and off the gcds. People who don't believe me try putting your beast gauge off in the corner using hud layout. Now run your STATIC rotation double phoenix opener. Yep, class is identical to pre endwalker except no positional.

The people on the forums acting like all these classes getting easier and easier to play and even more importantly becoming more and more like each other with less identity really need to think about the next expansion. There is a point where even you will become bored with your favorite class and you're next.

The summoner is particularly unfortunate. Maybe the bard is worse.

I found enjoyment playing on controller to make things a bit more busy and trying other classes like red mage and dragoon.

Class design is like the only point of contention for most on this expansion so maybe we could just enjoy the great music and story for a while longer but hey... express yourself. Cheers.

[Awarewolf]

I spent a lot of time trying to like monk… the summoner is particularly unfortunate. Maybe the bard is worse.

My favorite three jobs this expansion are the Monk, Summoner, and Bard, lol. I like things simple in my old age!!

[xxmiamorecadenza]

Monk is bland.

I wanted to quit it but I adore it’s aesthetic too much to put it down, I’ll admit. My glams and main is somewhat centered around the job at this point.

I’m deriving a small amount of enjoyment from re-learning it and trying it in extreme content but -

It’s just kinda boring now with a simplified play style.

At least the casuals are enjoying it.

[Reimmi]

My favorite three jobs this expansion are the Monk, Summoner, and Bard, lol. I like things simple in my old age!!

I personally wouldnt say bard got much easier, you still snapshot your dots and tbh it feels busier than before. just less clunky
Though this is always subjective. i find monk hard to play personally because im not a melee player

[Nafreyu]

Actually, BRD is better.

[DPZ2]

Haven't had an issue with either Bard or Summoner so far. Definitely not "boring", so I suspect OP has a greatly different idea about boredom.

SMN took some time getting used to the new rotations, but it isn't like it was ever more than 'hit the pretty proc'd icon' for more damage before. Akh-Morn is a wonder to behold against same-level foes.

BRD is a bit more 'hit the pretty proc'd icon', but now ... songs! They buff the Bard as well as the rest of the party. O frabjous day! < and there was much chortling >

Getting bored with a class just, well, it happens. That's why leveling more than one job via MSQ and side-quest works so well. At least we don't have to level each job on a separate character -- just remembering leveling every single WoW job (both Alliance and Horde side) to level 110 on different characters was a lesson in boredom.

[Jirah]

It’s never about the mains, it’s always about catering to the lowest common denominator. People that want the jobs to play itself, people that don’t want to learn people that don’t even like the job based on very shallow statistics.

This is a scourge of a mindsey

[wereotter]

Monk prior to this ran a static rotation with fast speed, off the gcds AND positional.

Monk now runs a static rotation with fast speed and no off the gcds. People who don't believe me try putting your beast gauge off in the corner using hud layout. Now run your STATIC rotation double phoenix opener. Yep, class is identical to pre endwalker except no positional.

Allow me to fix this for you (change marked in bold)

Monk's OGCD moves (shoulder tackle, elixir field, tornado kick) were moved into the blitz mechanic which operates entirely on the global cooldown. The Forbidden Chakra is still an off global cooldown.. and I guess if you want to just count the utility skills and buffs? (Brotherhood, Riddle of Fire, Riddle of Wind) but that's kind of like saying it's fine if they decide to remove shoha, shinten, jump, spineshatter dive, dragonfire dive, stardiver, nastrond, geriskogl, mug, bunshin, bhavakara, and all the others I'm forgetting, put them behind a new gate to access them, and then place their execution entirely on the global cooldown and then say the job is the same.

The fact is the job was gutted out in Shadowbringers under the promise that this would let them expand on the job further this expansion. But rather than an expansion to the identity of the job, we got a hybrid copy of dance+ninjutsu and then had the job gutted out even further with the removal of positional requirements and the majority of our off global cooldown attacks.

The problem for many of us who have been maining the job through its ups and downs (I started to main it in Heavensward after leveling it up for the mantra cross class ability) is that the job just feels hollowed out now. The job was an incredibly active one before, and a lot of that activity has been taken away to the point that for those of us who enjoyed it for that always pushing something always doing something action, there's just not much left to it any more.

[aveyond-dreams]

I will not speak on monk seeing as how I have not touched the class besides the obligatory levelling it to 15 back in the ARR days to unlock Dragoon, but I will say that Summoner right now is in the best state it's ever been in and Bard feels fantastic to play now that the dot procs for the songs are gone. Remember, for every 1 person who sits here complaining on the forums there are at least 100 regular players who are enjoying the new job changes for these jobs and while each job could be improved in some way or other, we do not need to return to mechanics that failed badly.

[Theox]

Good that I realized it fast enough and dropped monk right after the msq in endwalker lol