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  1. #291
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrFlesh View Post
    goes to fflogs to search for tani shirai

    404 not found

    right.....
    "Any worthwhile defensive would also have an indirect impact on rDPS" is not a complex concept. But ad hominem away, I guess?
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  2. #292
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    MsQi's Avatar
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrFlesh View Post
    goes to fflogs to search for tani shirai
    Ok kids, this is exactly what you DON'T want to do...
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  3. #293
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    Ok kids, this is exactly what you DON'T want to do...
    This is why I am okay with not being allowed to bring up parses in game.
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  4. #294
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    DynnDiablos's Avatar
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    Shai Rae
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    Seraph
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DrFlesh View Post
    goes to fflogs to search for tani shirai

    404 not found

    right.....
    There's actually a line of text you can place in your official FFXIV Lodestone profile that will prevent you from showing up on FFLogs. I've done it. It is no one's damn business what I do.
    (1)
    "The worst foe lies within the self."

  5. #295
    Player Caurcas's Avatar
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    Caur Kagon
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    Siren
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    I mean fflogs is essentially a public record, and that's a okay. It's when you hide log that you draw suspicion.
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  6. #296
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    LittleImp's Avatar
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    Lil Imp
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DrFlesh View Post
    goes to fflogs to search for tani shirai

    404 not found

    right.....
    I am willing to vouch for the ideas Shurrikhan is putting forward.

    Shaving a single regen-tics worth of damage off of a raid-wide is pointless the vast majority of the time.

    Either the mitigation is necessary to your survival, or it's used to save on resource expenditure elsewhere (Healer GCDs being a notable one). If it isn't doing either of those things in a way that creates a net rDPS gain over taking another job, it can be argued that it's not valuable.
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  7. #297
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    I mean fflogs is essentially a public record, and that's a okay. It's when you hide log that you draw suspicion.
    not really
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  8. #298
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    not really
    They're actually not wrong.

    Most groups you apply to for serious content will immediately look at your FFLogs, as it's seen as a resume of both your demonstrated clears and a metric of your ability. There's arguments as to whether or not DPS is useful metric, but I can emphatically tell you that FFLogs is a significant part of raiding culture in this game and is a huge factor in public perception of the players within that culture. Often people with hidden logs are red-flagged, but not everyone with hidden logs is bad. I know someone in the top 1% of their job who hides their logs.
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  9. #299
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    DPZ2's Avatar
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    Dal S'ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    I mean fflogs is essentially a public record, and that's a okay. It's when you hide log that you draw suspicion.
    It's not a public record, it is the equivalent of publishing a recorded conversation where one of the parties hasn't consented to the recording.

    That happens a lot these days. Twitter and Youtube are full of such recordings, and the consensus seems to be that it does more good than harm. But do not be fooled into believing it does no harm. And do not believe you have a Right to publish whatever you want on the Internet without reprisal.
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  10. #300
    Player Caurcas's Avatar
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    Caur Kagon
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    They're actually not wrong.

    Most groups you apply to for serious content will immediately look at your FFLogs, as it's seen as a resume of both your demonstrated clears and a metric of your ability. There's arguments as to whether or not DPS is useful metric, but I can emphatically tell you that FFLogs is a significant part of raiding culture in this game and is a huge factor in public perception of the players within that culture. Often people with hidden logs are red-flagged, but not everyone with hidden logs is bad. I know someone in the top 1% of their job who hides their logs.
    As a mid cores raider, who has had not great parses before, I've never been upfront rejected due to logs. However, they are appreciated because they show your content attempt history and represent a level of transparency with any perspective group.
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