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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrFlesh View Post
    are you actually saying that mitigation skills outside of tank personal cd's are useless?
    If they don't allow for a single heal less in a given fight, yes. Quite literally so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    If they don't allow for a single heal less in a given fight, yes. Quite literally so.
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    right.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrFlesh View Post
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    right.....
    "Any worthwhile defensive would also have an indirect impact on rDPS" is not a complex concept. But ad hominem away, I guess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrFlesh View Post
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    Ok kids, this is exactly what you DON'T want to do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    Ok kids, this is exactly what you DON'T want to do...
    This is why I am okay with not being allowed to bring up parses in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrFlesh View Post
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    right.....
    There's actually a line of text you can place in your official FFXIV Lodestone profile that will prevent you from showing up on FFLogs. I've done it. It is no one's damn business what I do.
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    "The worst foe lies within the self."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrFlesh View Post
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    right.....
    I am willing to vouch for the ideas Shurrikhan is putting forward.

    Shaving a single regen-tics worth of damage off of a raid-wide is pointless the vast majority of the time.

    Either the mitigation is necessary to your survival, or it's used to save on resource expenditure elsewhere (Healer GCDs being a notable one). If it isn't doing either of those things in a way that creates a net rDPS gain over taking another job, it can be argued that it's not valuable.
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    Vel Kallor
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    Either the mitigation is necessary to your survival, or it's used to save on resource expenditure elsewhere (Healer GCDs being a notable one). If it isn't doing either of those things in a way that creates a net rDPS gain over taking another job, it can be argued that it's not valuable.
    So you are dismissing OUT OF HAND the raid utility that support classes bring to the table?
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