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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    Alpha is a good comparison, I would say. A created "arcane entity" being which doesn't technically need to follow the "laws of creation" (which I interpret to mean "laws of nature" like needing sustenance and such), but does so anyway, simply from the way it was created. And in time and given a bit of luck, the Loporrits could also gain souls, like Alpha did.
    And of course, with the Loporrits having been alive for somewhere over ten thousand years, and us not really knowing how one gets a soul, it's fairly plausible that there were a few that had some. And we might not be able to tell who.

    I bet it's Puddingway, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    And of course, with the Loporrits having been alive for somewhere over ten thousand years, and us not really knowing how one gets a soul, it's fairly plausible that there were a few that had some. And we might not be able to tell who.

    I bet it's Puddingway, though.
    Puddingway being stuffed full of his soul food may be a thing, yes.

    I got the impression the Loporrits haven't actually been awake for very long cumulatively. They come out now and again for maintenance purposes (on the Moon), and in the past couple of hundred years they've been in indirect contact with the Sharlayan Forum, but most of the time they remain in suspended stasis.

    If this was pre-Endwalker, I'd have speculated idly that part of getting a soul would be discovering determination, as in clinging onto hope that this time what might have been a futile endeavor would now succeed. This could be anything as simple as "I want to live", as with most sentient but non-sapient beings, or something along the lines of Alpha pushing forward with trying to free us from Omega's trap despite being completely powerless. However, with the Endwalker revelations of what possession of a soul actually means in terms of categorization, I haven't really examined that hypothesis for newfound holes.

    In any case, Alpha acts sapient and with free will, but didn't actually receive a soul until the very last part of the Omega questline, at which point we can understand them via the Echo, but no other aspect of their personality changed (apart from the obvious character growth everyone had). So the Loporrits might be the same: they are certainly sapient, but they might not be en-souled until some arbitrary criteria is met.
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