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  1. #21
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    They did say that Hrothgar will get new hairstyles in 6.1, but will they still need to use Fantasia just to change it?
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  2. #22
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    They did say that Hrothgar will get new hairstyles in 6.1, but will they still need to use Fantasia just to change it?
    i hope not, honestly. i was also just mostly making a sh*tpost.

    i actually feel for viera because i -do- play a hrothgar as my main despite the character i have selected to display on the forum. it's kind of frustrating that they can't even just hire a single person to just, update a single headpiece to work on hroths/viera every patch or so. people who modify the game (which is against the TOS and bannable) have already proven this is a trivial task that takes only an hour or two at most and considering how many weeks there are between patches and how much cash FFXIV has been raking it, i feel they could totally afford to hire someone to do it.
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    Last edited by Denji; 12-22-2021 at 02:36 AM. Reason: forgot to quote

  3. #23
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    Katja Eruyt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exosapien View Post
    No, I am telling you you're being over the top right now. Justifiably. How long I've played Viera has nothing to do with anything, especially when I have 2 female Viera alts and personally also only like a couple of the available hairstyles. On this character, my main, I only like about two of them, and neither of them are perfectly aligned to my aesthetic. However, I'm not one to expect the game cater to me personally either.
    So, SE explicitly told me to post my complaint on the forums so they can review it and forward it to the right person and you're acting like I've made this out of spite? Hyperbole wasn't needed - all I ever wanted was for Viera to be up to standard with the other races, I don't think its asking much? Yet, there's always people on the forums telling me there's other priorities. Don't implement a half-arsed race if you're not going to bother further improving it. People join FFXIV and choose a Viera or Hrothgar only then to discover later down the line they have severe limitations so they inevitably end up paying £5 for a fantasia - it's extortionate and not okay.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theox View Post
    And to the OP - I don't like you as a person but I'm willing to die with you on this hill.
    Not going to lie but I can't remember you at all, I've had pleasant experiences with many people on the forums and I don't remember most of them so I doubt highly doubt I'll remember you. Nevertheless, I'm glad we have something we can agree on. It's nice to come across someone who has some sense.
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    Square Enix have extorted money from Viera and Hrothgar's limitations, but from the outside looking in it seems barely any of that money is invested back into the limited races. How much money have they made from players
    fantasia'ing to and from the limited races? We want more race-exclusive hair.
    We want them improved, and we want it done within a reasonable time.

  4. #24
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    Exosapien's Avatar
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    Amarant Ventonitrua
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    So, SE explicitly told me to post my complaint on the forums so they can review it and forward it to the right person and you're acting like I've made this out of spite? Hyperbole wasn't needed - all I ever wanted was for Viera to be up to standard with the other races, I don't think its asking much? Yet, there's always people on the forums telling me there's other priorities. Don't implement a half-arsed race if you're not going to bother further improving it. People join FFXIV and choose a Viera or Hrothgar only then to discover later down the line they have severe limitations so they inevitably end up paying £5 for a fantasia - it's extortionate and not okay.
    Yeah, I was right, over-the-top. People are allowed to disagree with you. If hyperbole wasn't needed you might want to refrain from it's use. You got more options. You don't like the options, so now you're demanding more options. Are you going to demand they keep making things until they get the one you think is acceptable based on your subjective opinions?

    Compared to other successful games in the genre, even if they didn't add those six more options you still have more options that you would in other games.

    The only thing you're putting out is entitlement and if you didn't like Viera to start with, why'd you make one in the first place?
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    I'm LITERALLY doing what they asked me to do. I waited 3 days for the whole 'que posts' to die down but they're still going strong so figured I'd throw my complaint in the mixture. No one can complain though, must be nice to see a post about something other than the que times/refunds.

    That's an automated reply. It's common knowledge at this point that the devs pay no attention to the English-language forums. You're better served going to Reddit.
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  6. #26
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    "We shouldn't get new hairstyles because I have to wait two minutes to get into an MMO!"

    This thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkobra View Post
    "We shouldn't get new hairstyles because I have to wait two minutes to get into an MMO!"

    This thread.
    dude when the queue's at 4000-5000 it can take up to two hours depending on how often you get 2002'd. let's not pretend that square wasn't forced to disable trial accounts and that people weren't literally using remote desktop on their phones at work/school just to get to play ffxiv when they got home.
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    Theodore Xeon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    dude when the queue's at 4000-5000 it can take up to two hours depending on how often you get 2002'd. let's not pretend that square wasn't forced to disable trial accounts and that people weren't literally using remote desktop on their phones at work/school just to get to play ffxiv when they got home.
    He's not arguing about that though. The fact that we have queues doesn't mean we shouldn't get viera hat and hair options since these issues have absolutely no correlation whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theox View Post
    He's not arguing about that though. The fact that we have queues doesn't mean we shouldn't get viera hat and hair options since these issues have absolutely no correlation whatsoever.
    How else am I supposed to interpret 'I have to wait two minutes to get into an MMO!'
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exosapien View Post
    Yeah, I was right, over-the-top. People are allowed to disagree with you. If hyperbole wasn't needed you might want to refrain from it's use. You got more options. You don't like the options, so now you're demanding more options. Are you going to demand they keep making things until they get the one you think is acceptable based on your subjective opinions?

    The only thing you're putting out is entitlement and if you didn't like Viera to start with, why'd you make one in the first place?
    No, I'm complaining because over 2+ years of waiting we only have 6 hairstyles. They implemented a gender counterpart instead of working on the pre-existing issues with female Viera, they had plenty of time to fix it but instead they were too busy making another race with the same issues. if me requesting the same level of customization options as the other races make me entitled, then yes I am entitled - but by definition no, I don't think my request or complaint is unfair.

    You, on the other hand have been continuously hostile and argumentative on the forums which I'm not surprised at. Nearly every single post I've seen you on, you've been arguing and unnecessarily confrontational. If you're like this in real life to anyone; you may want to refrain from having such an unwarranted attitude and potentially look at getting professional help.

    You'll be the first person on the forums I've actually blocked because honestly, at a time like this the last thing I want is to be lectured by a Viera who pairs grey skin with purple hair.
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    Last edited by SherlottaEryut; 12-22-2021 at 03:34 AM.
    Square Enix have extorted money from Viera and Hrothgar's limitations, but from the outside looking in it seems barely any of that money is invested back into the limited races. How much money have they made from players
    fantasia'ing to and from the limited races? We want more race-exclusive hair.
    We want them improved, and we want it done within a reasonable time.

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