Jobs and Class, I am nervous now.

[Coglin]

Would rather have a dev/rep comment on if the video is true now or not, than waste my time unlocking black mage and all it's abilities to find out it sucks.

You mean like all classes have at some point?

SE has done reasonably well, in my opinion, at beefing up or nerfing down an overly weak or overly powerfull class, at the times the general population has flooding the forums with discussion pointing out the imbalance. They may not always do well with there implimentation of an idea for a class, but they have done reasonably well at adjusting it due to players suggestion to correct the issue.

For example, I was leveling ARC to be bard. I like bard in general and in concept. I have played bard classes in many many MMOs. Yet when I got to the point of leveling ARC, it was right after there big nerf. Every other Tom, Dick, and Harry was leveling the, at the time, the some what over powered lancer. It was clear by the 8 threads a day discussions of it, that my opinion of the situation was not unique. So, I knew the situation would change for ARC, there for rage abandoning of the class and up comming job was illogical. Much like your comment.

Even if BLM is not everything you desire it to be, it does not mean it will stay on the level it is upon release. After a patch this big, you can most certainly expect 1.21a, 1,21b, 1.21c, and so on, in terms of adjustments and fixes. As well as, possible large adjustments by the next patch.

[Starlord]

This happens with every patch that changes combat. People are incredibly concerned and it's the end of the world until the patch hits. Once the patch is up it turns out everything wasn't nearly as bad as we all thought and the devs were actually doing their jobs and balancing things mostly well.

Well said Arcell =)

[fusional]

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[Reaujien]

I also complain that if I can't cure myself as the Black Mage role, yes I have necrogenesis and second wind. It irks me that White mage can toss out heals, and be good at dps in certain situations, when it's role is the HEALER. If it's role is to heal now, why the fudge does it get any form of dps that is possibly equal to black mage in any form?

Yo, bro... lol. How do you know WHMs will be able to pump out any form of DPS remotely close to that which a BLM might be able to do? Honestly man, I think you're thinking about this waaaay too much, and getting waaaay worked up over nothing. How do you know if whether once you change to BLM you get an increase in Mag. Acc and INT (or, w/e, just giving arbitrary examples), AND if switching to WHM they get a REDUCTION of Mag. Acc. and INT (or, w/e, again, just giving arbitrary examples) - or any other alteration of stats that would effect total magic damage output?

... you don't - so chillax yo~

[Masamune1004]

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[Wynn]

My point being, that perhaps instead of being so quick to judge the results of what we have just been shown, maybe we should be waiting to see how all the changes are going to be implemented before judging. We got one set of questions answered, but now we have more.

For example:
How much will stats be affected by changing jobs?

We can't make proper judgement yet without all the facts.



We'll never know for sure, now will we It's impossible to prove one was better than the other at this point. However that was not the point of my previous post.

I agree with you, but I also feel that the questions OP raises are valid based on what information they have provided thus far and should be answered.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Yo, bro... lol. How do you know WHMs will be able to pump out any form of DPS remotely close to that which a BLM might be able to do? Honestly man, I think you're thinking about this waaaay too much, and getting waaaay worked up over nothing. How do you know if whether once you change to BLM you get an increase in Mag. Acc and INT (or, w/e, just giving arbitrary examples), AND if switching to WHM they get a REDUCTION of Mag. Acc. and INT (or, w/e, again, just giving arbitrary examples) - or any other alteration of stats that would effect total magic damage output?

... you don't - so chillax yo~

Take a group of thm and a group of cjn to Zahar'ak and use aoes. Use a parse and see which group does more damage.

All my posts recently are defending what we do know. Flare does DoT damage after being used, making sleepga useless.
An analogy was made to me so I made an analogy that made sense to me.

I am not arguing anymore about what Black Mage will do, cause alot of people are right I don't know yet. I am not saying it's the end of the world. i am only saying that this patch makes me nervous that the job I have been waiting for will not live up to what I would like it to be, which is the highest dps of the classes.

[elreed]

you're only being pesismistic..... try it and we'll see, everything looks good for me.... and who tells you that ancient magic will have same cooldown? play and see, then discuss

[Shiggysonson]

Flare would be an absolutely dumb spell to use unless you have multiple black mages about to use it and guarantees all the mobs die. Cause if you pull too many like some parties have done and you DoT them and the all live, great they all have dots so they can't be slept. I never said sleepga was useless, I said in that situation sleepga would be useless, never said it was totally useless like Flare will be.

I also complain that if I can't cure myself as the Black Mage role, yes I have necrogenesis and second wind. It irks me that White mage can toss out heals, and be good at dps in certain situations, when it's role is the HEALER. If it's role is to heal now, why the fudge does it get any form of dps that is possibly equal to black mage in any form?

Just because flare is useless in that certain situation doesn't mean it's useless in all situations. Of course if a blackmage uses flare on a group when it needed to be crowd controlled, that black mage should be asked to... be more careful or make smarter decisions. If the situation was completely different, and the group of mobs was small enough to handle, flare MAY be an awesome spell to use.

The only dmg spell white mages are getting is the one that drains all of their MP. I don't see that spell being very good for most situations. I mean yea they get stone, stonera, aero, and aerora from conjurer, but that's because conjurers wouldn't be able to solo without them. Maybe white mages will have very low magic attack potency compared to conjurers and black mages.

[elreed]

Well theres something that i feel uneasy with the job notes, it says that blm will be able to equip 5 skills from other 2 classes as lvl 50, but i dont see conjurer as base/subclass class... would be dumb not being able to cast any conjurer spell like aero, stone and their tiers, but i assume they will be job friendly, but might be wrong...