Jobs and Class, I am nervous now.

[Maxthunder]

That's what SE is doing.

How is preparing, planing and expected outcome have anything to do with the Community blowing things out of proportion before even the patch is released? :/

Because SE is known for making huge mistakes and than saying, oops we will fix it at a later date. By the way SE statement of fix it later is either 6 months down the road or never.

I myself am concerned at what SE is or has done with the job system. As I play thm and am looking at blm, the ability to not be able to cure or buff one's self is not something I am thrilled about. As much as I hate to say this (I will have to wait and see) exactly what has been done.

In closeing there is no reason that players can not hold a discussion about their concerns with or without experiencing the content. Again SE is known to do things that dont work very well or is broken.

[NoctisUmbra]

Would rather have a dev/rep comment on if the video is true now or not, than waste my time unlocking black mage and all it's abilities to find out it sucks.

Again, even if it's true the BLM isn't in AF gear. This means it's not represented accurately for sure.

[Victor]

I feel a little nervous about the concept of jobs myself. It seems typical XIV-style so far: strange and probably misguided. I guess we'll see how it pans out in the coming days

[Starlord]

Because SE is known for making huge mistakes and than saying, oops we will fix it at a later date. By the way SE statement of fix it later is either 6 months down the road or never.

I myself am concerned at what SE is or has done with the job system. As I play thm and am looking at blm, the ability to not be able to cure or buff one's self is not something I am thrilled about. As much as I hate to say this (I will have to wait and see) exactly what has been done.

In closeing there is no reason that players can not hold a discussion about their concerns with or without experiencing the content. Again SE is known to do things that dont work very well or is broken.

SE is known to do this and do that is all subjective and Opinionated, depends on how you look at it :/.

Edit: also Expressing Concern about something we know hardly about, is like Expressing concern for a new Restraunt Opening up without first trying it first

[Shiggysonson]

That movement while casting video has made me very extremely nervous on how jobs are supposed to improve party play, or anything else at that matter. After watching it and noticing a few things it makes me wonder... how?

What did you expect to see in the video? A black mage one shotting a level 50+ monster? Let's not forget about balance.... thaumaturges do insane burst damage as it is. If a black mage was able to do even more for less MP all the other DD jobs would be useless.
I'm sure black mages will do more noticeable damage in end game fights, and don't forget black mages are getting a way to manage hate and mp better. This will lead to a huge boost in the total dmg a black mage can do considering MP and enmity are the biggest things holding thaumaturges back.
Your reason for sleepaga being useless doesn't even make sense. Just because black mages get a spell that can make another spell useless doesn't mean they're both useless.... just don't use them together....

You seem to understand that the jobs are supposed to bring clear roles to parties, and yet you're complaining about not being able to cure yourself as a blackmage.... something that's not part of the blackmage role! -_-

[Jinrya-Geki]

SE is known to do this and do that is all subjective and Opinionated, depends on how you look at it :/.

Edit: also Expressing Concern about something we know hardly about, is like Expressing concern for a new Restraunt Opening up without first trying it first

I look at it more like this, you have two workers. One is a full timer (blm), the other a part timer(Thm). Full timer does the same exact work as the part-timer in that one department, but can only work in one department. While the part-timer can not only work in that department but others as well.

Why be a full timer if the part timer can do more and show he is better at doing more?

[Reaujien]

I look at it more like this, you have two workers. One is a full timer (blm), the other a part timer(Thm). Full timer does the same exact work as the part-timer in that one department, but can only work in one department. While the part-timer can not only work in that department but others as well.

Why be a full timer if the part timer can do more and show he is better at doing more?

Sounds like you're just going to have to play BLM in some of the new party-oriented content coming out on Friday (or w/e they decide to release 1.21). Creating analogies in an attempt to try and reiterate or clarify your anxieties/speculations doesn't make them any less of what they are: anxieties/speculations.

[Jinrya-Geki]

What did you expect to see in the video? A black mage one shotting a level 50+ monster? Let's not forget about balance.... thaumaturges do insane burst damage as it is. If a black mage was able to do even more for less MP all the other DD jobs would be useless.
I'm sure black mages will do more noticeable damage in end game fights, and don't forget black mages are getting a way to manage hate and mp better. This will lead to a huge boost in the total dmg a black mage can do considering MP and enmity are the biggest things holding thaumaturges back.
Your reason for sleepaga being useless doesn't even make sense. Just because black mages get a spell that can make another spell useless doesn't mean they're both useless.... just don't use them together....

You seem to understand that the jobs are supposed to bring clear roles to parties, and yet you're complaining about not being able to cure yourself as a blackmage.... something that's not part of the blackmage role! -_-

Flare would be an absolutely dumb spell to use unless you have multiple black mages about to use it and guarantees all the mobs die. Cause if you pull too many like some parties have done and you DoT them and the all live, great they all have dots so they can't be slept. I never said sleepga was useless, I said in that situation sleepga would be useless, never said it was totally useless like Flare will be.

I also complain that if I can't cure myself as the Black Mage role, yes I have necrogenesis and second wind. It irks me that White mage can toss out heals, and be good at dps in certain situations, when it's role is the HEALER. If it's role is to heal now, why the fudge does it get any form of dps that is possibly equal to black mage in any form?

[Starlord]

Flare would be an absolutely dumb spell to use unless you have multiple black mages about to use it and guarantees all the mobs die. Cause if you pull too many like some parties have done and you DoT them and the all live, great they all have dots so they can't be slept. I never said sleepga was useless, I said in that situation sleepga would be useless, never said it was totally useless like Flare will be.

I also complain that if I can't cure myself as the Black Mage role, yes I have necrogenesis and second wind. It irks me that White mage can toss out heals, and be good at dps in certain situations, when it's role is the HEALER. If it's role is to heal now, why the fudge does it get any form of dps that is possibly equal to black mage in any form?

WHM= Holy... always had Holy.. and that's a DPS >.>.

[Arcell]

This happens with every patch that changes combat. People are incredibly concerned and it's the end of the world until the patch hits. Once the patch is up it turns out everything wasn't nearly as bad as we all thought and the devs were actually doing their jobs and balancing things mostly well.

Edit: Jobs look like they're promoting a completely different kind of gameplay than we're used to so far in XIV. Right now with classes it's mostly about the self, you can be quite self-sufficient and cover a wider range of roles. With jobs they're very strict and precise roles however they're also all built around group play. The way a lot of these things look like they're going to work means they will be best with other jobs supporting them.