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  1. #31
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    Yoohre_WildRiver's Avatar
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    Yoohree Reborn
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    Zalera
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Did i just read someone wisjes to trade second wind and quelling strike for cure stoneskin..on th blm job... Come on guys your pushing it..its blm..not rdm or whm... Final fantasy much?
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeko View Post
    Quelling Strike buff enmity down works as if you did -150 damage when the hit connects. So if you did 250 damage, the mob will only act like you did 100 hate-wise. It does not allow you to go 'negative' and will not shed hate for you like chameleon. Also, the enmity associated with actually buffing it is 19, so your net "gain" in enmity loss is only really -131 "damage" worth of enmity.
    Just thought to point out that according to the tests done here, Quelling Strike reduces enmity values by approx 20%. The tests were done by the same person I translated for a while back.
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    Stanislaw | Durandal Server

  3. #33
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    Kaeko Leta
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Ah I haven't seen that yet. I'll have to bother you for a translation sometime. I do remember testing Quelling Strike versus a very low damage attack and it seemed to give +0 or +1 enmity gain so I don't know if this was an error in testing or if the link you gave accounted for attacks like that.
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    Dancing Mad (Excalibur Server)

  4. #34
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    Klynwilf Spellrifter
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I just hope, as more classes come out, we get more classes to pull some cross skills from. I support the how and why we are so limited, I just hope to have more options when other classes get released. Right now, all Black Mages are going to have the same 5 cross skills, since the rest are useless to us.

    In short, we are all cookie cutter with our abilities right; more options, later, would be nice.
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  5. #35
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    Amanda Huggenkiss
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    Sargatanas
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    Samurai Lv 93

    Mmmm... Black Mage cookies.
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    I like frog

  6. #36
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    Krausus Dracul
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    Famfrit
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    Ninja Lv 90
    seems to me BRD is the one that didnt make out well with cross class, I dont see any reason for BRD to use many of the THM abilities at all
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  7. #37
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    Queen Tatsuki
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    But still... I'd gladly trade second wind and feather foot for cure, stoneskin and protect....
    Too bad you're not rdm =/
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  8. #38
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    Sigmakan Kaph
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    Ninja Lv 80
    BRD can use CNJ abilities (cure raise sacred stoneskin protect). The one that got screwed is WHM. The GLA abilities are only helpful if you are cure tanking it seems (which I hear is quite possible)
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  9. #39
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    Klynwilf Spellrifter
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Tank abilities are very useful on the healer. Shield Bash, Sentinel, and Outmaneuver are all useful if the healer pulls threat. Honestly, I like my healers alive and conjurer is one of the few classes that can use a shield.
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  10. #40
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    Ashley Zeibel
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    BRD is the only job able to Sacred Prism => Sanguine Rite. There's also possibility for Resonance + Cure / Protect / Stoneskin / Raise, again, only bards can do that.

    Seems in line with the job's role (support)
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