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    electrikALIEN's Avatar
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    I learned something today!

    But still... I'd gladly trade second wind and feather foot for cure, stoneskin and protect....
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    Quote Originally Posted by electrikALIEN View Post
    I learned something today!

    But still... I'd gladly trade second wind and feather foot for cure, stoneskin and protect....

    why? second wind heals for more than cure and doesn't require precious MP, I can certainly see the benefits of stoneskin and protect though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    why? second wind heals for more than cure and doesn't require precious MP, I can certainly see the benefits of stoneskin and protect though.
    45 second cooldown and self cast only as opposed to 5 seconds and any friendly target.

    Plus, that Second Wind is going to seem mighty valuable when you need to save it for Convert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by electrikALIEN View Post
    But still... I'd gladly trade second wind and feather foot for cure, stoneskin and protect....
    I understand your point, but then again you could stick to playing THM without activating the BLM job. From my understanding, you'll be able to function a lot better solo using base classes and their higher cross-class potential than from using Jobs. These are intended for party play where more specific roles become valuable. In a party as a BLM, you're not likely to have to worry about healing yourself, that responsibility goes to WHM, BRD, PLD jobs and other party members using base classes with healing/buffing spells equipped. If you opt for Black Mage, your role will shift to dealing high levels of damage with more powerful spells and abilities at your disposal, and your principal worry will be to manage the enmity generated by that, and avoid getting hit. Necrogenesis and Second Wind are good for last-minute recovery in case you accidentally grab too much hate and get hit, or if you get smacked by an AoE attack, but that's generally all you'll need. If you get hit enough to justify your need of Cure and Stoneskin as a BLM, well, I'd say you're doing it wrong.

    Classes = Horizontal development (more cross-class flexibility, no focused improvements, but strength through variety and versatility)
    Jobs = Vertical development (less cross-class flexibility, but highly focused improvements through exclusive abilities and gear)

    Both have their situational uses, that's why you can toggle them on/off and aren't forced to use them. Give it a try first, I trust that they did a good job balancing it all.

    Also... think of Rydia in Final Fantasy IV, she used to be able to use simple White and Black magic as well as simple summons as a child, but growing up she chose to abandon White magic in favour of more powerful Black magic. It makes sense to me that a full-fledged Black Mage wouldn't touch white magic with a six foot pole. I'm not surprised the BLM job is locked out of using CNJ spells
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    Quote Originally Posted by electrikALIEN View Post
    I'd gladly trade second wind and feather foot for cure, stoneskin and protect....
    I'd gladly trade Cure, Stoneskin and Protect for White Mages knowing how to play their job...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umo View Post
    I'd gladly trade Cure, Stoneskin and Protect for White Mages knowing how to play their job...
    man you must play with some really bad players, currently CNJ is by far the easiest class to play. I play it so I can get **** faced drunk and not effect the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by electrikALIEN View Post
    I learned something today!

    But still... I'd gladly trade second wind and feather foot for cure, stoneskin and protect....
    if you wanna be a nuker and a buffer you could just stay thm.
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