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  1. #71
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    Videos are not accurate displays of stats and damage, and everyone should know that by this point.

    Remember Dzemael Darkhold video, the ahrimans dealing 8k damage?
    Remember Ifrit video, characters with wildly different HP/MP values that people thought was due to materia?


    Same thing here.

    As for the whole "Wahh, can't use Sentinelskinvigoratewind anymore", the whole point of the job system is to specialize players so they excel on a certain role while needing more party support due to not being as self sufficient as before. So, yeah, a BLM might not be able to use sentinel / stoneskin on Hellfire, but will be dealing more damage and white mages / paladins are better prepared to protect and heal a party after this kind of attack - so you won't be needing it anyways if all goes well.

    Not to mention that, as others mentioned, you can still use classes and I'm pretty sure there will still be certain strategies and content where people will indeed prefer to go as classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Beat me to it! Jue jue jue.

    Fixed it for ya tho :P
    my posts are like a car crash, that one leg flying into the distance.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    Videos are not accurate displays of stats and damage, and everyone should know that by this point.

    Remember Dzemael Darkhold video, the ahrimans dealing 8k damage?
    Remember Ifrit video, characters with wildly different HP/MP values that people thought was due to materia?



    Same thing here.

    As for the whole "Wahh, can't use Sentinelskinvigoratewind anymore", the whole point of the job system is to specialize players so they excel on a certain role while needing more party support due to not being as self sufficient as before. So, yeah, a BLM might not be able to use sentinel / stoneskin on Hellfire, but will be dealing more damage and white mages / paladins are better prepared to protect and heal a party after this kind of attack - so you won't be needing it anyways if all goes well.

    Not to mention that, as others mentioned, you can still use classes and I'm pretty sure there will still be certain strategies and content where people will indeed prefer to go as classes.
    This this and This!!! This Right here closes this thread because this thread was based off of the Teaser Spellcasting Changes! This video is no different than the ones mentioned.
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  4. #74
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    OP has a point, guys, and you know it.

    This whole mentality of wait to question changes until its too late and set in stone crap is retarded and fanboyish.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    OP has a point, guys, and you know it.

    This whole mentality of wait to question changes until its too late and set in stone crap is retarded and fanboyish.
    Can't Change coding Idea's etc etc in 3 days time.. no question with change the outcome of the patch.. not that quick.. best thing to do is wait till patch if you have problems with it Then discuss it.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    OP has a point, guys, and you know it.

    This whole mentality of wait to question changes until its too late and set in stone crap is retarded and fanboyish.
    OP only has a point IF all he assumed is true, and all of his assumptions are based of a video that was NOT intended to show off the power of BLM abilities, not to mention that the stats on EVERY single video SE released up to this point did NOT reflect actual in-game numbers.

    If the video was a showcase for the new BLM abilities and they did deal that damage, then OP would have a point.

    And if we start analysing the video, we also realize that

    A) All sleeps worked
    B) Even the regular sleep spell had no recast time
    C) Kobolds received - just enough - damage to die in time to show everything they wanted to
    D) Not a single spell failed, got resisted or cancelled by a hit.

    This doesn't happen under regular in-game conditions, sorry.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    OP has a point, guys, and you know it.

    This whole mentality of wait to question changes until its too late and set in stone crap is retarded and fanboyish.
    You mean like how everyone jumped on Server Merge option 4 sucking hard before seeing it in action, then when option 2 was implemented it caused all kinds of people/linkshells to be unable to move to new servers due to SE's attempts to balance the player counts across all servers equally?
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon View Post
    You mean like how everyone jumped on Server Merge option 4 sucking hard before seeing it in action, then when option 2 was implemented it caused all kinds of people/linkshells to be unable to move to new servers due to SE's attempts to balance the player counts across all servers equally?
    There is a difference between OP's analysis and the general forum stupidity that went on regarding the merge options.
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  9. #79
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    I wonder if I can jump hellfire. Lol.

    Also folks don't forget that medicines/food will be a big part of the game here on. The time for relying on sentinel is over.
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    Last edited by Zezlar; 03-05-2012 at 11:55 PM.

  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    I wonder if I can jump hellfire. Lol.

    Also folks don't forget that medicines/food will be a big part of the game here on. The time for relying on sentinel is over.
    jup i think so too, and thank god for that
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