Sincere Recommendation: Accept you will not be able to play, walk away for a while

[Divinemights]

"If a datacenter holds like 500k people total but has 600k subs active, they could slap a warning that tells you that you will most likely have a queue during primetime hours. If this starts climbing to 700k 800k etc they should 100% just state they dont have the space and let people make the decision from there"

Miss this part? The reason I even put the cap above is because not everyone subbed is going to be playing at once. Figured that was a given but it wouldn't be the first time that has happened to me on these forums.

You are very miss-informed and a lot things are from your own imagination.
All I going to say, someone just offer you an alternative to play, google on how to do remote desktop instead of complaining on something already happened and there is no solution in immediate future.

[Miles064]

You are very miss-informed and a lot things are from your own imagination.
All I going to say, someone just offer you an alternative to play, google on how to do remote desktop instead of complaining on something already happened and there is no solution in immediate future.

Are you saying SE has no way of seeing or displaying these numbers. The other guy didn't want to answer that either for some reason. I don't mind being wrong it was just an idea I though might ease things up a bit. You and the other guy went right to being condescending with out saying what the issue is though.

[Divinemights]

Are you saying SE has no way of seeing or displaying these numbers. The other guy didn't want to answer that either for some reason. I don't mind being wrong it was just an idea I though might ease things up a bit. You and the other guy went right to being condescending with out saying what the issue is though.

Yes, indeed, they should be able to see how many copies sold or reserved, but answer me this
How are they going to find out the age group, time zone of each copy sold?
How are they going to tell from sale record (right now mostly are done digital) or preorder on what type of customers bought your game?
How are they going to know each individual's login time?
Especially we are talking about fresh subscription?
If you can do that yourself, you definitely need to submit a resume to any large company.
The marketing team would love you

[Miles064]

Yes, indeed, they should be able to see how many copies sold or reserved, but answer me this
How are they going to find out the age group, time zone of each copy sold?
How are they going to tell from sale record (right now mostly are done digital) or preorder on what type of customers bought your game?
How are they going to know each individual's login time?
Especially we are talking about fresh subscription?
If you can do that yourself, you definitely need to submit a resume to any large company.
The marketing team would love you

Why would they need to do any of that if it was ment to be a rough guess in the first place? All they need is current sub counts and copies sold to just warn people they might run into issues. 500k cap 600k subs means yeah the high pop server might have queues but you should be fine based on players not all playing at once. 500k cap and 800k subs? Ok just a heads up queues are 100% going to be happening and depending on you server it might be pretty long. 500k cap and 1mil subs? You will have a queue and the servers may have some issues. You were warned.

They could even use this to say "hey things seemed to have dropped off in this datacenter" if people want to make alts/transfer over or come back after waiting a bit as well.

Edit: They don't even need to say the sub number though it would be nice. Would be nice if every mmo did something like this at least.

[Shironeko_Narunyan]

They gave us 3 weeks of free sub, that's more than you'd get from any other company.
While it doesn't solve the problem, it does show goodwill, and they did at least two detailed explanation posts on the Lodestone to lay out why exactly these problems exist and how they plan to fix them.

Seriously, at this point, threads like this remind me of an angry toddler throwing themselves to the ground kicking and screaming. Maybe cut it out already?

[Myrany]

Now account for how many people will come back for the new expansion?

Now account for free trial accounts?

Now account for absolutely unknowable hardware availability?

Now account for profits and investors? (I know the internet loves to demonize that part, but it is part of running a successful business, Squenix isn't a charitable organization.

Right now the queues are an inconvenience, yes, but not the end of the world.

I will move the queues to an inconvenience when the 2002 bug is fixed and the getting dumped out of game bugs are as well. I am willing to wait in long lines patiently. Assuming the lines are not going to arbitrarily reshuffle (2002).

In reaction to everything I either have not been playing or doing what I did this morning and log in at weird o'clock in the morning and get what I wanted done before most folks are up for the day.

[XplicitX]

To be fair, queue to Levithan at 7:30 PM EST looking at 6,500 and only able to get in around 10:30 PM.
Played until 1:00 AM I am still able to end up as lvl 89 SAM and Lvl 88 Reaper and progressed 80% of main quest lines.
It is not like you can never play.
Just do your RL chores while waiting for queue, and 200 situation will be improved after next patch, shouldn't be that bad
I do have a work and a life.

The point is MOST people can't stay up till 1 am so your schedule allows you to actually play which was this part of my comment "or waiting 4-6 just (like) everyone else... sad flex buddy." I love it when you people compare how you have different circumstances with time & basically say just rearrange your life so you can stay up as late as me.

[XplicitX]

Two Words: Remote Desktop

I just queue an hour or two before I leave work. Oh look, I can play the game.

Never had any luck with the phone-based versions of remote access & please keep in mind the majority of people don't have a computer they can access at work nor do they keep one up their hole.

[DamianFatale]

from what i heard, the usual circumvention like talking to npc, busy, hud, and crafting no longer work. havent tried running into wall yet

Running into a wall does not work either. People are still using third party tools to prevent auto log out now though. It's disgusting.

[Exosapien]

The point is MOST people can't stay up till 1 am so your schedule allows you to actually play which was this part of my comment "or waiting 4-6 just (like) everyone else... sad flex buddy." I love it when you people compare how you have different circumstances with time & basically say just rearrange your life so you can stay up as late as me.

I guess you have priorities that mean you can't play the game right now.

That's what happens in life. Sometimes you don't get everything you want.