Sincere Recommendation: Accept you will not be able to play, walk away for a while

[Conundrum]

Explain then. Each server holds so many people at a time and each data center has so many servers right? You should be able to figure out a number based on that alone. If that total number is 500k then give it till 600k or 650k till it becomes worth warning about as the servers do not have the same population nor do all players log on at the same time. If it keeps going up past that though they should just say so when people try to buy the game or even resub to it. "Hey total data center cap is 500k people at once but your data center has 900k active subs at the moment, you still want to join? Gunna have some issues getting on maybe"

Now account for how many people will come back for the new expansion?

Now account for free trial accounts?

Now account for absolutely unknowable hardware availability?

Now account for profits and investors? (I know the internet loves to demonize that part, but it is part of running a successful business, Squenix isn't a charitable organization.

Right now the queues are an inconvenience, yes, but not the end of the world.

[Conundrum]

For anyone who is threatening to sue, or thinking about whether it's even possible, the podcast Virtual Legality from Hoeg Law ran over Square Enix's ToS and found that as part of Terms of Service, you agreed that if you felt the service was unacceptable, the most you could be afforded in a lawsuit was the purchase price of the game itself. (And likely in exchange, your account would be terminated, since you got your money back.) You also can't actually sue in some states, because they said it first should go through arbitration, and while that might not hold up in CA's court system, it would in many states in the US.

Idiots have bleated about suing MMO companies for decades (not an exaggeration), want to guess how often it happens?

[Miles064]

Now account for how many people will come back for the new expansion?

Now account for free trial accounts?

Now account for absolutely unknowable hardware availability?

Now account for profits and investors? (I know the internet loves to demonize that part, but it is part of running a successful business, Squenix isn't a charitable organization.

Right now the queues are an inconvenience, yes, but not the end of the world.

New expacs require a sub to get into and would be part of the sub numbers.

I'll be honest and say I forgot about trial accounts and give you that one.

Hardware doesnt matter as the numbers would be about what they have at the moment anyway. If they cant get new servers to increase the hypothetical 500k cap then not much we can do about it till they do.

Can't say I care to much about their profits. If buy something from them and I can't use it do you expect me to just shrug and say "oh well"? Hell by having the numbers out there they could still get people to buy the expac and just wait on the sub til things die down. If they have to be dishonest about it they deserve to die like any other dishonest company does.

[XplicitX]

Lol wrong. On call nurse actually... but the fact you lash out at anyone posting shows you are. XD Really... someone like you needs to take a 5 and relax somewhere NOT causing you this much stress.

Yeah so basically a job that has the added benefit of possible larger chunks of time off than your average 9-5ers. These people can't play at all during the week. They also probably can't spend half of each day over the weekend just trying to login. Let's not forget about all the other irl stuff people need to take of that makes waiting 6 hours near impossible. I'm also not totally convinced you're not dipping into the med storage to keep that "calm."

[Conundrum]

New expacs require a sub to get into and would be part of the sub numbers.

I'll be honest and say I forgot about trial accounts and give you that one.

Hardware doesnt matter as the numbers would be about what they have at the moment anyway. If they cant get new servers to increase the hypothetical 500k cap then not much we can do about it till they do.

Can't say I care to much about their profits. If buy something from them and I can't use it do you expect me to just shrug and say "oh well"? Hell by having the numbers out there they could still get people to buy the expac and just wait on the sub til things die down. If they have to be dishonest about it they deserve to die like any other dishonest company does.

So basically you just want to whine on the forum. Got it.

[Miles064]

So basically you just want to whine on the forum. Got it.

Asking for a warning about the status of the thing I'm spending money on is whining now? And here I thought I was going to learn something from you. How disappointing.

[Maxilor]

> MFW I have been logging on and playing consistently before and after work and are half way through Endwalker already.

[Kodabey]

This might be the most patronizing and ridiculous post I have ever seen. How about you take your smug attitude and just walk away for a while?

[Divinemights]

Asking for a warning about the status of the thing I'm spending money on is whining now? And here I thought I was going to learn something from you. How disappointing.

After they are being transparent, explains the situation, and offer compensation, yeah, you met the definition of whinning.
I don't need to take account that most of other companies will just stay silent or gives you 500 atomic credit.

[Miles064]

After they are being transparent, explains the situation, and offer compensation, yeah, you met the definition of whinning.
I don't need to take account that most of other companies will just stay silent or gives you 500 atomic credit.

They only did this after the issues. The warning I'm talking about would have been before this became a big deal. Telling me the servers are full and that's why I can't play is something I could have figured out myself from not being able to play. What's wrong with asking "ok, how full?" and making my decision based on that afterwards? And yeah other companies have done worse things, that has nothing to do with SE right now. I don't expect them to just spawn servers out of thin air(cause it got nerfed ha) or just fix 2002 right away or anything. Is my request really so out of there?