*Spoilers* Anyone feel joining Emet would have been better

[Zoliru]

I'm kind of puzzled by how there are apparently a lot of players who feel that Emet-Selch was correct, but I haven't seen many (or indeed any thus far) who feel that Fandaniel was correct.

Both of them had a member of the Scions go "well they have a point", after all.

Well from the perspective of Emet, and even the WoL since he went there back in Elpis we see a world that honestly looked a lot better, was better objectively speaking.
-Immortality
-Power of creation
-Society that focuses on fixing problems and improvement
-Literally being able to see the lifestream resulting in a society where death is not as scary, your soul just goes to rest, it never truly "dies" (Though I have a question now, can we destroy souls in this universe?)
-Researching many aspects of life, hence why I said dynamis would end up being the subject of research sooner or later just like we in real life have created tools to measure things we cannot see, so sundering was not required.

This isnt some delusion of the great perfect past like we see certain groups of people IRL fall victim to, this is an objectively better world that CAN come back if appropriate steps are taken including the rejoinings, this is an achievable feat.

Imagine your life being shattered into 14 pieces, all those 14 pieces are dumber, weaker and are a parody compared to your own full self, if you watch them live their lives you might even feel disgusted.
All these pieces have lives, they might be happy, even content though unlikely but due to having a part of your soul they are "living beings" in all regards.

Are you telling me you would prefer to keep this sundered parody of existence going instead of reunite all those soul parts to bring back the ORIGINAL, objectively better existence. That is the perspective of Emet and I absolutely agree with him, the parodies of the shards hold little value compared to what was.
And if you want to not feel bad about it, just remember the fact that those are FRACTURED SOULS, souls dont die, they will simply reunite and become the original soul, which just like in Ancient society never truly ceases to exist.


And to be honest, everytime I see Emet selch memes now I feel so sad because he was done dirty, he didnt deserve this

Meanwhile Fandaniel's beliefs are similar to hermes, extremely personal, he felt like a stranger among the people he was born both times, he ended up hating everyone around him for not being like him and both times tried to find solace in an external source, Xande or previously "what will other maybe more advanced civilizations believe", he never looked inward and that was the problem, because that is where you find the answer to such questions or more importantly the reason WHY you even NEED such answers to begin with.

Yes, he says so himself

I dont believe anyone is disagreeing with that statement, that is true, he was tempered, but if like the loporits said "if you summon such enormously powerful creature sbeing tempered is just a small "tug"" then that isnt the "tempered" we are imagining from what we ve seen the primals or towers do to the ones around them.

And his actions show it, the Ascians very focus from the beginning has been to restore their old world any means necessary, it might look chaotic evil from the perspective of the races who did not know the ancients, but everything was planned and calculated.

[QT_Melon]

I dont believe anyone is disagreeing with that statement, that is true, he was tempered, but if like the loporits said "if you summon such enormously powerful creature sbeing tempered is just a small "tug"" then that isnt the "tempered" we are imagining from what we ve seen the primals or towers do to the ones around them.

And his actions show it, the Ascians very focus from the beginning has been to restore their old world any means necessary, it might look chaotic evil from the perspective of the races who did not know the ancients, but everything was planned and calculated.

Read back up on who I quoted. They directly contradicted so which I had to enlist proof. "Besides the big two" That's incorrect since Zodiark IS one of the Big two INCLUDING its summoners.