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    Just reading posts over the week where people are missing so many obvious things. Like one poster didn't understand why we went back in time. Another poster didn't understand what the point of all the dead worlds was. Many people didn't understand why we had to have Meteion at all.

    The entire saga - ARR to EW - came down to this moment here. In a field of flowers in the midst of despair, when Meteion remembers what Hermes said to her so long ago. And just to be clear, I'm not talking about people's opinion of this stuff. Some people like it, some people don't. Some people understood the point perfectly well, they just didn't think it worked. And that's life.

    But to not understand what the story was truly about, what the whole story arc was truly about, after it was spelled out and then explicitly shown in this scene is just thoroughly missing the point.

    Full disclosure, I'm also biased because of all the scenes in Endwalker, this one hit me the hardest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Full disclosure, I'm also biased because of all the scenes in Endwalker, this one hit me the hardest.
    Everyone in my little friend group that went through this at roughly the same time seemed to like this scene the most. It really packs it all in to just a couple of minutes, and it works on several levels at once.

    It has the classic payoff of someone waiting thousands of years for just one little promise being met, of course, as well as the buildup you experience within the Endwalker story, with everyone you've ever known getting you to the furthest corner of the universe just to make the moment happen.

    Within that moment itself, it uses a bunch of the established features of the game world that you've learned about. You use the power of Azem that you recently understood and had bolstered by Hydaelyn, which you've been told not to use to summon the Scions, to bring forth two ancients you and Meteion met in Elpis. They have previously returned to the Aetherial Sea and have their memories of you and Meteion and Hermes all restored, and can use creation magic to make the whole thing happen when no one else could.

    And then the flowers are called "Elpis" after the place that they came from and that you all met. But "Elpis" is also the spirit of Hope, and so you're quite literally bringing Hope to the embodiment of Despair.

    It's really damned good, is what I'm saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Just reading posts over the week where people are missing so many obvious things. Like one poster didn't understand why we went back in time. Another poster didn't understand what the point of all the dead worlds was. Many people didn't understand why we had to have Meteion at all.
    As I replied to those posts during the week, I came to realization that a lot of people are either new to, or simply don't understand abstract story telling. Another example is I see some say the sundering scene doesn't make sense because "isn't there supposed to be a healing period, second summoning, why Venat is not Hydalen .etc.". Like, that scene is not a direct re-creation of what actually happened. Emer-Setch and Venat should be bitter enemies at that point, but they just passed each others. There was a dude getting eaten alive and Venat just walk by without lifting a finger (which is completely out of character), and of course no way Venat could have evoke the sundering in her human form.

    Just like the other scenes you had mentioned, this sundering scene isn't about the sundering, but to convey the abstracted justification of why it was needed. Yet a lot of people treat it as if it's about the sundering itself.
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