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    DeadRiser's Avatar
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    Kipp Kaida
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    "I can't use stoneskin, healing spells, and -insert other class role here-..."

    It's funny because as soon as Conjurer became an awesome healer with almost limitless supplies of MP, in Ifrit the healers and leaders still tell DD's to heal themselves when it's the roll of the healer to do that.

    So when jobs come around in 5 days, YOU need to utilize your roll in a party... not everyone elses. Leave the healing to the conjurer and the support to the conjurer and the archer.

    And the most important, WAIT TILL IT RELEASES
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    Hikozaemon Kenkonken
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    "I can't use stoneskin, healing spells, and -insert other class role here-..."

    It's funny because as soon as Conjurer became an awesome healer with almost limitless supplies of MP, in Ifrit the healers and leaders still tell DD's to heal themselves when it's the roll of the healer to do that.

    So when jobs come around in 5 days, YOU need to utilize your roll in a party... not everyone elses. Leave the healing to the conjurer and the support to the conjurer and the archer.

    And the most important, WAIT TILL IT RELEASES
    thats nice and logical and all but the current instance fights dont promote some DD jobs(not classes) very well to begin w/ and clustering up for heals in these fights is usually a bad idea except at very minuscule situations. I foresee people just doing it the way they already do after the job system is released. I dont see PGL/MNK gettin any less better at being a complete MP sponge during ifrit/moogle fights lol. And a THM that cant heal others in those OH! SHIT! moments or themselves reliably enough to just survive wont be any better at DDing when they are dead. And there is this entire gimpy spell problem w/ not being able to cure people standing next to you while yer on a 2inch incline higher than them problem too that still exist that shouldnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikozaemon View Post
    thats nice and logical and all but the current instance fights dont promote some DD jobs(not classes) very well to begin w/ and clustering up for heals in these fights is usually a bad idea except at very minuscule situations. I foresee people just doing it the way they already do after the job system is released. I dont see PGL/MNK gettin any less better at being a complete MP sponge during ifrit/moogle fights lol. And a THM that cant heal others in those OH! SHIT! moments or themselves reliably enough to just survive wont be any better at DDing when they are dead. And there is this entire gimpy spell problem w/ not being able to cure people standing next to you while yer on a 2inch incline higher than them problem too that still exist that shouldnt.
    The whole thing about PGL/MNK being a sponge is kind of moot. The class requires attention on the enemy, your health bar, positioning, and your mp bar as well. Needless to say the class takes skill. My leader in my linkshell uses PGL for the moogle fight and does amazing dps because he knows what he's doing.

    Thaumaturges healing others or themselves? They can cross class second wind. Plus they shouldn't be getting hit unelss they are getting WAY too much enmity or getting hit by eruptions or any other type of move that they can miss.

    And you can't just focus the jobs around the primal fights, because I know that's exactly what you are talking about lol. It's party play, requiring the party to mesh together, not be individual healers/supporters/dd's/tanks all in one class. I can't wait since this patch with jobs will have an incentive to stay alive. Not everyone will be able to raise, not everyone will be able to heal effectively, and not everyone will be able to do two roles effectively. This is what I've been waiting for!
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