every time someone says "a chip shortage, or they can't find more servers".

[LittleImp]

I agree it sucks, but the current year means nothing when talking about old network systems. You'd be surprised how cobbled together and shoddy most of NA internet infrastructure is.

It's an extremely basic expectation to create systems of redundancy around networked features in modern software, all the more if you are trying to market your service in an area that may have imperfect networks. There is absolutely no valid excuse whatsoever for this game closing itself and frequently removing you from the queue when it drops a singular packet at the wrong time (It's also been widely demonstrated that it does this when no packets are dropped at all). Even if the developers feel it's necessary, it would only be necessary due to constraints created by incompetence somewhere in the long development of this game and its backend.

This isn't the 1980's. There is no reason for a program to terminate itself over such a basic and commonplace error.

[leoxastaroth]

It's an extremely basic expectation to create systems of redundancy around networked features in modern software, all the more if you are trying to market your service in an area that may have imperfect networks. There is absolutely no valid excuse whatsoever for this game closing itself and frequently removing you from the queue when it drops a singular packet at the wrong time (It's also been widely demonstrated that it does this when no packets are dropped at all). Even if the developers feel it's necessary, it would only be necessary due to constraints created by incompetence somewhere in the long development of this game and its backend.

This isn't the 1980's. There is no reason for a program to terminate itself over such a basic and commonplace error.

You seem to make it sound as though the issue is very simple to solve through the writing and changing some code. I'm not going to disagree with you because I have no clue about what goes into coding a game but I'll just ask this; if it's honestly such a simple thing to do for the devs, just a bit of code to write so that you keep your place in the queue, why do you think they wouldn't do that? Do you honestly believe the developers are just lazy/don't care about profit or public appearances?

And if you're saying; "Oh well they're incompetent and can't do this thing I am saying because they are bad at creating/improving a game" then again, where is the solution exactly? Should they hire new developers right now? Ask them to quickly tackle writing/changing code for a game they've never worked on? Is it an apology you'd want? Money back?

I mean surely you have to agree that they too -want- you to play their game, right?

[Penthea]

People would more readily accept the 'chip shortage' explanation if it hadn't been repeatedly demonstrated that a software oversight has been causing many of the most frustrating issues with the queue.

It wouldn't make much of a difference. My time in other mmos tells me this. Many players out there don't care why they can't log in. They only care that they can't. They could be told that the location of the servers is experiencing flooding from bad weather and they would rage at SE for not having enough back-up servers. Many people are blindly enraged by inconvenience even if there is a good reason for it.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Chip shortage is one thing, but according to veterans on this forum and in game, SE has been told for years they needed more server and didn't get more. Yeah nobody could've predicted the current sitch but still. They kept selling more subs than the servers can literally handle.

Netflix for example, I think the sub cost is about the same per mo. Lets say they sold 3 Mil subscriptions, and you go to watch a movie, and are put in a 2 hour queue lol. Their response is "Oh... well yeah only 17,000 people can actually use the service at once. We were told years ago it'd be a problem but uh yeah, you know, uh, chip shortage now yeah."

SE has been upgrading them to align with growth. It would be foolish to say that this wasn't an ongoing process as ff14 has constantly been growing. The issue is that a perfect storm of events all happened so quickly and close together.

No one could have predicted this.

[MilkieTea]

You seem to make it sound as though the issue is very simple to solve through the writing and changing some code. I'm not going to disagree with you because I have no clue about what goes into coding a game but I'll just ask this; if it's honestly such a simple thing to do for the devs, just a bit of code to write so that you keep your place in the queue, why do you think they wouldn't do that? Do you honestly believe the developers are just lazy/don't care about profit or public appearances?

And if you're saying; "Oh well they're incompetent and can't do this thing I am saying because they are bad at creating/improving a game" then again, where is the solution exactly? Should they hire new developers right now? Ask them to quickly tackle writing/changing code for a game they've never worked on? Is it an apology you'd want? Money back?

I mean surely you have to agree that they too -want- you to play their game, right?

Stop, you can't say that! It'll force everyone to have to think more!

...

or they'll just ignore this and say something to the effect of "profit margins... greedy company... something something 'chip shortage my ass'... something something 'months to prepare..."

[Illy_Peridot]

But getting angry at the dev team won’t fix it, acting like it isn’t real won’t fix it, cause it isn’t fixable rn. It’s a real conundrum.

I won't get angry at the dev team for these issues, because I know they care about the game. I'll get angry at the higher ups in SE's corporate ladder though, since it's doubtless been their final decision on how servers are maintained.

[kejakalope]

TC reminds me of those uneducated ones that mocked COVID then proceeded to not wear masks or vaccinate then acted surprised when they got COVID.

I promise you there's a very strong overlap between those people and the people who think the superconductor shortage is a hoax being perpetuated because Square... wants... people to tell their friends not to jump aboard their currently white-hot MMO due to login queues for... reasons.

[Thatusernameistaken]

i think of this. sorry that I could only find a clip in Spanish for the part I wanted. https://youtu.be/xxoEiKfjzlQ

Haven't seen a forum massacre this bad in a long time. Dude posted this without even trying to learn about the situation first. Hope you're ok, stay safe.

[Lenivy]

God forbid they rent servers from 3rd party. That would force their techincians to work once they would have to migrate people from rented machines to their own in 2025+. But hey we have like 15 servers on europe and 2x that for japan, big logistics.

[TristanX]

Eating potato chips . Today only 658 queue at 6.55pm. Don't even need to use remote access.

Now where is my Core i9-12900K? Even those DDR5 on sale are overpriced and uses crappy chips. The shortage is real.

Give it a few months. They will sort it out.