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  1. #1
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    Gwenorai's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceStyx View Post
    I´m not hiding anything behind the shortage of material. The actual problem is not the shortage. It is that storing of material in a warehouse for possible use in the future / or emergency's. But thats a problem all big company have because they have to safe money some where and there will be always someone on the other side who will pay the price. One Problem leads to another one and so on until it comes to a standstill. But yeah. If People pay attention during the queuing time and log back in as soon as they get kicked you land most of the time at the same position (+ / - a few positions). I personally think the errors got less and arranged my day according to my gaming needs and if i see in the evening 7000+ I simply do something else and don't waste my energy on being angry. Because there is no benefit in being angry about a thing that has no real impact on your RL (if you need to game / stream to pay your rent ok different thing)
    I've seen recently that the 'landing back in the same position is not a guarantee and is more than likely to not hold your place.

    The idea that you, the consumer, must continuously baby your connection to the server to be able to log in is frankly silly.

    Not everyone can rearrange their day as you have. Keep that in mind. People do not have that luxury.

    Now, it can be argued that this is entitlement. But people seem to be forgetting that people are indeed entitled to a service they've paid for.

    The analysis of the 2002 error shows that they should be able to fix it, as there's no need for the server to keep disconnecting and then reconnecting every 15 minutes if your connection is healthy and stable. This doesn't require more servers etc., it simply costs them money.

    I'm not going to shake pitchforks and demand my money back etc. But looking at these forums, there are certainly many issues that can be fixed without it going back to the shortage.
    Sound errors
    Crashes
    Dx11 Mess ups
    All of these have sprung up from Endwalker. This isn't even touching the server, refusing to connect people, or kicking them off.

    This would have happened even without the shortage. Their estimated growth of the player base would have still had NA and EU servers at near-total capacity. They knew this before the shortage. More servers should have been added in Shadowbringer on top of the ones we had. It's better to have half-empty servers in waiting than no space at all in the ones you have.

    Your kind words aren't helping anyway, including FF14. People seem to forget that Square Enix is billion-dollar cooperation. It exists to make money.

    They need to fix the 2002 error, and at the very least, increase the grace period of logging back into the game or retaining your queue by 10 minutes. At least that will calm folks down whose games are crashing, are being kicked by the server, or sound has deteriorated to the point they have to leave.
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    Freki42's Avatar
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    Kita T'larke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I've seen recently that the 'landing back in the same position is not a guarantee and is more than likely to not hold your place.

    The idea that you, the consumer, must continuously baby your connection to the server to be able to log in is frankly silly.

    Not everyone can rearrange their day as you have. Keep that in mind. People do not have that luxury.

    Now, it can be argued that this is entitlement. But people seem to be forgetting that people are indeed entitled to a service they've paid for.

    The analysis of the 2002 error shows that they should be able to fix it, as there's no need for the server to keep disconnecting and then reconnecting every 15 minutes if your connection is healthy and stable. This doesn't require more servers etc., it simply costs them money.

    I'm not going to shake pitchforks and demand my money back etc. But looking at these forums, there are certainly many issues that can be fixed without it going back to the shortage.
    Sound errors
    Crashes
    Dx11 Mess ups
    All of these have sprung up from Endwalker. This isn't even touching the server, refusing to connect people, or kicking them off.

    This would have happened even without the shortage. Their estimated growth of the player base would have still had NA and EU servers at near-total capacity. They knew this before the shortage. More servers should have been added in Shadowbringer on top of the ones we had. It's better to have half-empty servers in waiting than no space at all in the ones you have.

    Your kind words aren't helping anyway, including FF14. People seem to forget that Square Enix is billion-dollar cooperation. It exists to make money.

    They need to fix the 2002 error, and at the very least, increase the grace period of logging back into the game or retaining your queue by 10 minutes. At least that will calm folks down whose games are crashing, are being kicked by the server, or sound has deteriorated to the point they have to leave.
    I agree with you there are other issues that need to be dealt with but with all the posts with no technical information steps given they can't make head way because some sound errors could easily be an issue of a microsoft windows patch that interferes with their programming (has happened in many games before) while the same sound issue is because someone has a program running in the background that they didn't realize was still there (just hit X to close the window but didn't tell the program to halt background process). lots of things can be and most need some sort of information even if it is the words, this ALWAYS happens when you are indoors and a character is audibly talking so the devs have something to go on. and then there are posts like this that should really be in general instead of here. Also not EVERY error has a fix for it. Most errors the user sees are indicating what has happened and it's not really an error. I once had someone ask me why their program (in a programming class) was issuing an error when they hit enter for a blank answer, I looked and the error was litterally that there was no place for it to store a nul set (nothing entered). another time they kept getting an error and came to find out they were hitting a letter, space or special character when the program was only looking for integer inputs. so just because you see the word "ERROR" it does not mean there is an error in the game or program but a code that will help someone look into things it isn't that there is an error to really be fixed or that could be easily fixed on the back end. I know people see the word error and immediately you think that something has messed up in the program, when that is not always true.

    another time I got errors was when i used to use dial up modems back in the 90's the redial attempts reach the end, the dialer program said error code 10. If I didn't know that meant that it was going to try anymore till I reset and started to dial again. nothing wrong, it just told me that it did not connect at all thus the computer knows only to call out error.
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    AceStyx's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I've seen recently that the 'landing back in the same position is not a guarantee and is more than likely to not hold your place.

    The idea that you, the consumer, must continuously baby your connection to the server to be able to log in is frankly silly.

    Not everyone can rearrange their day as you have. Keep that in mind. People do not have that luxury.

    Now, it can be argued that this is entitlement. But people seem to be forgetting that people are indeed entitled to a service they've paid for.

    The analysis of the 2002 error shows that they should be able to fix it, as there's no need for the server to keep disconnecting and then reconnecting every 15 minutes if your connection is healthy and stable. This doesn't require more servers etc., it simply costs them money.

    I'm not going to shake pitchforks and demand my money back etc. But looking at these forums, there are certainly many issues that can be fixed without it going back to the shortage.
    Sound errors
    Crashes
    Dx11 Mess ups
    All of these have sprung up from Endwalker. This isn't even touching the server, refusing to connect people, or kicking them off.

    This would have happened even without the shortage. Their estimated growth of the player base would have still had NA and EU servers at near-total capacity. They knew this before the shortage. More servers should have been added in Shadowbringer on top of the ones we had. It's better to have half-empty servers in waiting than no space at all in the ones you have.

    Your kind words aren't helping anyway, including FF14. People seem to forget that Square Enix is billion-dollar cooperation. It exists to make money.

    They need to fix the 2002 error, and at the very least, increase the grace period of logging back into the game or retaining your queue by 10 minutes. At least that will calm folks down whose games are crashing, are being kicked by the server, or sound has deteriorated to the point they have to leave.
    Most of the Issues seams to be PC related. I do not have any other errors than 2002 on my PS4 so it makes me at least a little bit happy that for once a console player is better of due to the fact we normally get "bashed" for not having the better graphics and so on. I agree absolutely that SE has some works to do and that they could have done some measures the last years and yes it would be great if it will happen sooner than later but sadly "real magic" only exist in games or movies. I just think people in the Western world are getting to fast to angry about small things in life because we take them for granted. I can not read Japanese so i dont know how the forum looks over there but assuming by there culture they are less verbal and demanding for compensation and all the other stuff we like to throw around if it does not go our way.
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