Just a interesting artcile about FFXI (and XIV)

[Benediction]

Most of the commenters on those sites just agree with whatever the writers say no matter how dumb or wrong they are, they will defend them religiously and those that don't agree usually end up getting their comments deleted (Though it's not as bad as Joystiq). As expected of the Joystiq sites.

What's the difference with the people on this forum? I usually see people unable to take any positive criticisms of this (terrible) game and just label the post/poster as a troll, moron or anything to discredit the opinion.

Honestly, the guy has some very good points. Just as he said, FFXI-2 wouldn't make sense at any level because it wouldn't add anything. Logistically, they could just do a graphical upgrade to FFXI; budget wise, they could just focus their effort on upgrading the game mechanics of FFXI; and common sense... why would you create a sequel that is exactly the same as its predecessor? You would not only waste money and time, you'd also be taking away players from the old game so you end up with barely new subscribers.

[MysteriousRonin]

It's an opinion. Just because you doesn't agree doesn't make him a moron.

I'd hate to ruin your naive perspective on life but not all opinions are created equal. The opinion of a moron, no matter if he writes on a blog or runs a country, is still a morons opinion.

[Benediction]

I'd hate to ruin your naive perspective on life but not all opinions are created equal. The opinion of a moron, no matter if he writes on a blog or runs a country, is still a morons opinion.

That is only true if you have something to prove that your opinion is actually worth greater than others.

Right now your opinion is worth as much as that blogger so by definition, your post could be considered moronic.

[Delsus]

This was quite interesting, if you ignore his comments about how forced partying was a bad thing.

Its effectively just saying why FFXIV should not be a port of FFXI, with arguments like "it would just be a sequil with none of the merits of a sequil" and about how the playerbase would only be FFXI players.

If I was him I would have put the comments at the top near the end, because I was debating whether to read on after that.

[Griss]

i stopped reading at "Final Fantasy XI was a terrible game'.

Well then you stopped reading right before he explained that point now didn't you?

[Kio]

I can't help but feel that the author was confused about what exactly people mean by their hope that XIV would have been more similar to an HD version of XI.

It wasn't that many fans literally wanted the entire game to have a graphics remaster and leave it as it is, which is what the author suggests. The reality is that many of XIV's customers have arrived to this place through an avenue of familiarity and fondness of XI. It doesn't help that XIV was crafted in a way to have a very similar art design to XI, I could easily envision Eorzea being an extention of Vana'diel. I think that created a situation wherein comparison was natural to do. Anyway, once expecting fans arrived at the end of said avenue they realized they were in a much different destination than expected and it was a slight let-down albeit it not a detrimental one.

A lot of people quietly pined for a game that combined all the positive aspects of XI, the beautiful graphics capability of XIV, and mixed it in with a slightly new play style. XIV didn't offer that however, and at least from the start it didn't even present anything that gave any indication it was related to the Final Fantasy series at all let alone their last mmo iteration.

My conversations with other players in game is that, despite knowing XIV is a stand alone title of it's own, most still perceive it as a sequel to XI. That's not necessarily a negative thing. We're in an interesting position wherein we can actively take good ideas from XI, already see how they've worked or didn't work, and re-implement them in new and exciting ways. And in my observations, that's really what a lot of players expected to have been done already(but wasn't) when they purchased XIV. Not that they actually expected the entire game or mechanics to be carbon copied.

On a deviated note, there's a long-running rumour that XI will become available for the PSVita. If that is true, I hope they do what I believe it was Everquest had done in the past. They opened an optional brand new server only for new character creation, and made only the base game playable on it. Then each month release the patches and expansions in the order they were originally released. So new players could experience or relive the game as it originally was but at a faster pace.

[Wynn]

i stopped reading at "Final Fantasy XI was a terrible game'.

Then you missed out on a very good explanation of what he meant. That's too bad.

[Mireille]

Read some of his other Final Fantasy posts, he is a moron. Most of the commenters on those sites just agree with whatever the writers say no matter how dumb or wrong they are, they will defend them religiously and those that don't agree usually end up getting their comments deleted (Though it's not as bad as Joystiq). As expected of the Joystiq sites.

His second point is absolutely correct though. A straight graphics upgrade will do nothing for people who have played the game for the last 11 years. For the vast majority of XI fans everything has been done already. Upgrading the graphics won't get people to start doing beseiged, or campaign battle again. That content is dead because people burned out on it, and moved to newer content.

If they were to update the graphics, and introduce a whole new game area the size of the original and 4 more expansions it might be a different story. I would however wager that many old school players won't like XI in its current incarnation though.

If they were to make an XI-2 set a in the far future with a tech level more along the lines of XIII, and create a story that ties the game back to its original roots and some of the original zones in some way it might be interesting.

[Koku]

Overall I believe it was an interesting read. The guy laid out his outline and made a point for most of his suggestions and reasoning. Not everything I agreed with, but it went in a logical direction. I can respect that.

[Rydin]

well with its current plan... FFXIV has the "Potential" to do bigger numbers than FFXI ever did....
To SE... I guess the best compromise is to repackage all the stuff that worked in FFXI and just call it something different