Spoiler, Sploilers, and more Spoilers

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Agreed. Pacing issues were bad enough, but this feels like some weird Kojima-esque fever dream with the power creep of WoW. Where do we even go from here? How do we up the stakes again so that it's even remotely believable? Why did we add in so many things that have never really been mentioned before and why are the scions and everyone around you seemingly totally fine and dandy with finding out their entire existence and everything they thought they knew about the universe was wrong?

This should be world-rattling events and everyone on Eorzea should be flipping the hell out. But everyone seems to be doing just fine. It's so jarring.

Did Emmet Selch not remind us there is still so much to see and do jut on Etheriys alone?

After reading the thread, Im not sure what some were expecting here. This was one of the best stories Ive ever experienced, and I do think the best in any video game ever in my life. It was fantastic. The comments I see in game constantly align with this as well.

Leave it to the forums to find fault with anything though.

[Rhysati]

After reading the thread, Im not sure what some were expecting here.

Cool, let me help you with that as far as I'm concerned: What I expected was a story that made logical sense. I expected a story that didn't throw a ton of random stuff at the wall in the hopes that it all stuck.

Why build up Zodiark since the beginning of the game's existence only to kill him like he's nothing a couple levels in? Why did none of the scions, nor the Warrior of Light understand that killing Zodiark would be really, terribly, horribly bad? I sure knew that straight away. When you have to deities locked into a tense balance and you straight up murder one of them...gee, who would have thought bad things would happen?

What I wanted was to NOT have a Hitchhiker's ripoff that handwaved a bunch of stuff because suddenly the moon is actually a spaceship piloted by bunny people. What I wanted was to not have people build a mass-effect level spaceship in a universe that doesn't HAVE any technology that looks like that. I wanted the tying up of things in Garlemald to feel longer than 20 minutes since the plot from day one has been about the Garlean empire. What I wanted was to not travel back in time and spend 2-3 levels of xp talking to Emet and company while the ending of the world had literally JUST begun.

This whole expansion jumped the shark for me and I flatly stopped caring about any of it. This expansion took everything that I enjoyed about FFXIV and its storytelling and dumped that off a cliff to tell a rushed story filled with tons of new things we haven't known anything about until it is a convenient plot device.

I went from being so pumped over the previous expansion being hands down the best expansion I've played for any MMO in a very long time to actually wondering how they managed to make a worse expansion than WoW.

[Lauront]

Cool, let me help you with that as far as I'm concerned: What I expected was a story that made logical sense. I expected a story that didn't throw a ton of random stuff at the wall in the hopes that it all stuck.

Why build up Zodiark since the beginning of the game's existence only to kill him like he's nothing a couple levels in? Why did none of the scions, nor the Warrior of Light understand that killing Zodiark would be really, terribly, horribly bad? I sure knew that straight away. When you have to deities locked into a tense balance and you straight up murder one of them...gee, who would have thought bad things would happen?

What I wanted was to NOT have a Hitchhiker's ripoff that handwaved a bunch of stuff because suddenly the moon is actually a spaceship piloted by bunny people. What I wanted was to not have people build a mass-effect level spaceship in a universe that doesn't HAVE any technology that looks like that. I wanted the tying up of things in Garlemald to feel longer than 20 minutes since the plot from day one has been about the Garlean empire. What I wanted was to not travel back in time and spend 2-3 levels of xp talking to Emet and company while the ending of the world had literally JUST begun.

This whole expansion jumped the shark for me and I flatly stopped caring about any of it. This expansion took everything that I enjoyed about FFXIV and its storytelling and dumped that off a cliff to tell a rushed story filled with tons of new things we haven't known anything about until it is a convenient plot device.

I went from being so pumped over the previous expansion being hands down the best expansion I've played for any MMO in a very long time to actually wondering how they managed to make a worse expansion than WoW.

Exactly this.

[RyuDragnier]

Cool, let me help you with that as far as I'm concerned: What I expected was a story that made logical sense. I expected a story that didn't throw a ton of random stuff at the wall in the hopes that it all stuck.

And that's exactly what you got, a story that made logical sense.

[Rin_Kuroi]

And that's exactly what you got, a story that made logical sense.

I agree. This story was an exploration of the fermi paradox and great filters. It's kinda terrifying there could be any number of great filters that no civilization will ever survive.

[Ranhansha]

And that's exactly what you got, a story that made logical sense.

No. It didn't. How does time travel work? Can you change things? Is it fixed? Our travelling there was what allowed Venat to learn about Meteion. Otherwise, everything would have happened but she wouldn't know the cause. So I guess you can change the past, even though, I believe, Elidibus tells you you can't. Then we also have alternative time lines on top of that with G'raha Tia in ShB? We have both. Makes perfect sense. And when you summon the Ancients they are your size, the same as Meteion, even though you are your usual size now. And they keep telling you to take dragon scales to Ultima Thule for whatever reason that never mattered. And everyone dies one by one in trials made just for them and the convenient power of friendship that you just got for that exact purpose resurrects them. Or how everything is solved in a single day, even fixing never before seen galactic spaceships or finding a protection against the tempering, which has been a constant issue. I mean...
That doesn't mean you can't enjoy the story. I enjoyed it, but I expected so much more.
Granted, I was starting to fear after patch 5.4 and the way they solved things and 5.5 when the focus was the tempering yet everyone was fighting lunar primals without the echo and no one seemed to care.