Spoiler, Sploilers, and more Spoilers

[Necrodamus]

Sorry i have to say it: enemy not at full strengh, time travel, memory erase.

All this is a really, really cheap resource to tell a history.

Is used a lot becouse is easy to fix or manipulate everything.

im dissapointed nothing else.

[Ranhansha]

You are right, and you forgot how overly sentimental it is to appeal to feelings rather than logic.
Also, how does time travel work? Sometimes you have different time lines (G'raha from ShB) sometimes you don't, like in EW. They tell you you can't change anything and all of a sudden you might as well be the cause of the Final Days. If we hadn't been there, would it all had been the same? Elpis just took place so we met the final boss and it didn't feel as it had appeared out of the blue and to go full fanservice. And what with the meteor showers? Why did they happen?
All in all, I enjoyed the story, but I was expecting a lot more and I hate time travels precisely because these kinds of things happens.

[Lium]

They tell you you can't change anything and all of a sudden you might as well be the cause of the Final Days. If we hadn't been there, would it all had been the same?

Yes, because Hermes already released Meteion's sisters to the expanse and Meteion was already "corrupted". What our presence there helped do was give Venat the foresight to one day fight against the Final Days.

Also, the starshower was explained in Shadowbringers. But if you're asking what they really are, it's a visual representation of the chaos caused by dynamis running rampant.

[Kyrj]

You are right, and you forgot how overly sentimental it is to appeal to feelings rather than logic.
Also, how does time travel work? Sometimes you have different time lines (G'raha from ShB) sometimes you don't, like in EW. They tell you you can't change anything and all of a sudden you might as well be the cause of the Final Days. If we hadn't been there, would it all had been the same? Elpis just took place so we met the final boss and it didn't feel as it had appeared out of the blue and to go full fanservice. And what with the meteor showers? Why did they happen?
All in all, I enjoyed the story, but I was expecting a lot more and I hate time travels precisely because these kinds of things happens.

Elpis could've been cut from the game and it would've been a lot better. Really thought they were gonna go with Hydaelyn as the big bad but nope, sad bird girl is the big bad. Completely stupid.

[Ririta]

Elpis could've been cut from the game and it would've been a lot better. Really thought they were gonna go with Hydaelyn as the big bad but nope, sad bird girl is the big bad. Completely stupid.

She IS the big bad. She is the most morally corrupt character in all of FFXIV. I don't get how the game just accepts her warped immoral logic as truth when everything we go through is her fault.

She is like Vauthry is to Shadowbringers, not the last boss, but the biggest culprit.

[Ranhansha]

Yes, because Hermes already released Meteion's sisters to the expanse and Meteion was already "corrupted". What our presence there helped do was give Venat the foresight to one day fight against the Final Days.

Also, the starshower was explained in Shadowbringers. But if you're asking what they really are, it's a visual representation of the chaos caused by dynamis running rampant.

Yeah, I know sooner or later the sisters' corruption would catch up to Meteion, but our interference was what got Emet, Hyth and Venat involved, so how did all that change things? That means we are actually responsible for what is happening in the present, which wouldn't make sense because the future takes place after the past. Time paradoxes suck because they don't make sense and then your story doesn't make sense.

Also, I think I read somewhere in EW that they had to rebuild what had been destroyed by the star shower, which would mean they are not just visual. It was just visual, as you say in ShB, when Elidibus made everyone see it to awaken their Echo. By the way, why does no one in the Source awaken to it when they see the stars? I hope it's included in 6.1. The Final Days were kind of disappointing. We had this amazing trailer and build-up since ShB and then it's just like Aurora Borealis. At that time of year, at that time of day, in that part of the country, localized entirely within Radz-at-han.

[Atreides]

There is not a single story in the world that is good by everyones standard, because everyone has another opinion. What one may concider a masterpiece can be absolute garbage in the eyes of another. What you might concider a good story can and will 100% be waste of time for another person. I guarantee you.

I for one loved the whole experience Endwalker gave me for me it did everything right, outside of very few low points but you can't only have highs.

[van_arn]

What happened first? Hydaelyn giving us the flower to set us down the path to discovering and traveling to Elpis

OR

Meeting with Venat in Elpis and setting her down the path to become Hydaelyn.

[Jandor]

Yeah, I know sooner or later the sisters' corruption would catch up to Meteion, but our interference was what got Emet, Hyth and Venat involved, so how did all that change things? That means we are actually responsible for what is happening in the present, which wouldn't make sense because the future takes place after the past. Time paradoxes suck because they don't make sense and then your story doesn't make sense.

Man it seems like everyone hates time travel all of a sudden. I thought it was fine, you go back in time, Venat gets some crucial information, nothing about your world is significantly changed, no need to split the timeline, all works out cool.

Or maybe I've just watched so much Doctor Who that I've inured myself to it.

Also, I think I read somewhere in EW that they had to rebuild what had been destroyed by the star shower, which would mean they are not just visual. It was just visual, as you say in ShB, when Elidibus made everyone see it to awaken their Echo. By the way, why does no one in the Source awaken to it when they see the stars? I hope it's included in 6.1. The Final Days were kind of disappointing. We had this amazing trailer and build-up since ShB and then it's just like Aurora Borealis. At that time of year, at that time of day, in that part of the country, localized entirely within Radz-at-han.

Hydaelyn is too weak to do the big floaty crystal introduction from the start of ARR. That's my guess anyway.

They start to awaken, they get whisked away for the Hydaelyn meet and greet, they get an 'Error 5005: Mothercrystal not found', they get dumped back into the real world with no awakening.

It's a meta-commentary on login server failures.

I for one loved the whole experience Endwalker gave me for me it did everything right, outside of very few low points but you can't only have highs.

How thematically appropriate. Maybe Labyrinthos felt like it was never going to end on purpose.

[Theodric]

I think that we really needed this story to conclude with 7.0 as originally planned. Far too much happened in too short a period of time and as such it wasn't able to properly 'settle'. Much of the story also ended up being needlessly convoluted and I daresay it almost feels as though it was written to get maximum 'feels' even at the cost of what made sense to actually occur. Worse yet, certain characters and zones were clearly not given their fair share of time in the spotlight in order to mash everything together.

I also think it jumped the shark and escalated things to a ridiculous degree. I wasn't pleased when WoW did that and I am certainly not pleased with FFXIV going down the same route.