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    I expected to see some Ivalice gear finally in dyeable version. But nope, again they just re-reused stuff.
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    Asset reuse has been a thing since Heavensward.

    I for one appreciate reusing older models. Less of a hassle on my inventory and glamour dresser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Asset reuse has been a thing since Heavensward.

    I for one appreciate reusing older models. Less of a hassle on my inventory and glamour dresser.
    That because you don't care for glamour but think if next they cut the content you do care for. And what they reused is not even that old. There older sets that never was reused that they at last can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    That because you don't care for glamour but think if next they cut the content you do care for. And what they reused is not even that old. There older sets that never was reused that they at last can do.
    I care for glamour contrary to your own assumption - I don't think you're in any position to assume what I do and don't care about. My statement merely implies there's just less of a need for me to hoard items needlessly because they elected to go with the route of bloating the game with unique assets. I'd much rather they pour that creativeness elsewhere to be frank. Reusing assets is just a key component of development. It just allows them to maintain deadlines. building everything would simply take too long if they didn't reuse assets. Development is a finite resource contrary to what many people seemingly believe. A lot of these models are reused from both HW/SB, most especially of the battle crafted variant. They'll simply get around to reusing many of the other models from HW and ARR in due course. There's already a good variety.

    I feel like your last point was trying to make argument for argument sake, taking into account (once again) that just as many of these gearsets date back as far as 3.0
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    If they are gonna reuse things, then they should rotate the sets by role. Or better yet, lift gear restrictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    I care for glamour contrary to your own assumption - I don't think you're in any position to assume what I do and don't care about. My statement merely implies there's just less of a need for me to hoard items needlessly because they elected to go with the route of bloating the game with unique assets. I'd much rather they pour that creativeness elsewhere to be frank. Reusing assets is just a key component of development. It just allows them to maintain deadlines. building everything would simply take too long if they didn't reuse assets. Development is a finite resource contrary to what many people seemingly believe. A lot of these models are reused from both HW/SB, most especially of the battle crafted variant. They'll simply get around to reusing many of the other models from HW and ARR in due course. There's already a good variety.

    I feel like your last point was trying to make argument for argument sake, taking into account (once again) that just as many of these gearsets date back as far as 3.0
    Clearly you don't care much for glams of you did it was not ok for you.buy again just think how you feel when they cut the things you do care for. Don't take it wrong it's totally fine to not care for glamour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    I care for glamour contrary to your own assumption - I don't think you're in any position to assume what I do and don't care about. My statement merely implies there's just less of a need for me to hoard items needlessly because they elected to go with the route of bloating the game with unique assets. I'd much rather they pour that creativeness elsewhere to be frank. Reusing assets is just a key component of development. It just allows them to maintain deadlines. building everything would simply take too long if they didn't reuse assets. Development is a finite resource contrary to what many people seemingly believe. A lot of these models are reused from both HW/SB, most especially of the battle crafted variant. They'll simply get around to reusing many of the other models from HW and ARR in due course. There's already a good variety.
    It’s the fact that they were able to produce far more back in HW and SB when they hadn’t made nearly as much money as they are now. Again, as much as i would like more unique sets, i’m semi-okay with them reusing previous sets if they at least MAKE THEM DYABLE. But they literally couldn’t even do that. Couldn’t even role swap them either. There’s no excuse for this development resources my ass lmao. When the expansion 4 years ago could give us more unique gear than this expansion with the most players and money made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Company produces the best expansion ever created for an mmo and these are the "complaints" people have. Zenos: Pathetic.
    First of all this is kind of subjective if you mean story wise. Personally i didn’t enjoy the story very much and i thought it was a huge step down from ShB. Content wise? Well that’s what we’re talking about in here and there’s a looot of problems with just how much they reused. Where at this point it isn’t only glams but literally dungeon themes. On top of them already cutting dungeons in ShB, we keep getting less and less every expansion instead of more when in reality it should be the opposite for what we’re paying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    Clearly you don't care much for glams of you did it was not ok for you.buy again just think how you feel when they cut the things you do care for. Don't take it wrong it's totally fine to not care for glamour.
    Oh dear. No I'm just not fussed because asset reuse has been a thing since the first expansion, so there was no precedent for me to suspect otherwise. Ergo, no need for me to be disappointed. I feel like if people elected to look at the past several expansions for this game then they would realise that it has always been the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    It’s the fact that they were able to produce far more back in HW and SB when they hadn’t made nearly as much money as they are now. Again, as much as i would like more unique sets, i’m semi-okay with them reusing previous sets if they at least MAKE THEM DYABLE. But they literally couldn’t even do that. Couldn’t even role swap them either. There’s no excuse for this development resources my ass lmao. When the expansion 4 years ago could give us more unique gear than this expansion with the most players and money made.
    Sure I'll give you a cookie on the basis of money, but it isn't just as simple a solution as to "just throw more money at it lul" - I'm going to disagree quite heavily on HW/SB having as much in terms of assets, simply because HW reused as many assets in not only from ARR, but from it's own expansion in the case of many crafted items, in fact items reused in the self-same patch no less. Similarly was the case with Stormblood, and Shadowbringers even. That isn't even taking into account the simply fact they have more artefact gear to support.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 12-13-2021 at 11:52 PM.

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    [QUOTE=Kaurhz;5749974]Oh dear. No I'm just not fussed because asset reuse has been a thing since the first expansion, so there was no precedent for me to suspect otherwise. Ergo, no need for me to be disappointed. I feel like if people elected to look at the past several expansions for this game then they would realise that it has always been the case.

    O fear no one angry just disappointed..yes there was some reuse but not to such extend. What more were we see the cut contents investment go? They was cutting dungeon each expansion.then deep dungeons. What other aspect we see getting more?
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