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  1. #21
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    MirielleLavandre's Avatar
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    I play on both NA and JP DCs and got sick of trying to queue into Fairy prime time, so played entirety of EW on Typhon with max 22 in queue, if there even was one. Honestly can't tell difference in latency between NA and JP, but then again I play PLD, but also had no issue with any of the trials. If you can do it, I'd suggest it (caveat is I'm Japanese so the language thing isn't a big deal - bonus also is no wipes at all on any trials hehe).

    If you just wanna see the MSQ and are rolling in money could even just boost a job and story skip right to EW.
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    Last edited by MirielleLavandre; 12-13-2021 at 07:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Literally the title. Since they have so many standard and lower pop servers. That way we can actually play the game without a hours long queue.
    It's a good idea. It's also something I did recently, as the queues are in the low teens all the time, NA night time being low teens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    The problem therein would be ping. Having a more or less guaranteed 100-200 MS of lag would be awfully annoying.
    I play with more latency than that into NA every normal day. It's not really an issue outside a few badly timed telegraphs, but those can be learnt.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 12-13-2021 at 07:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    Yeah but imagine the PR nightmare shutting it down would be. It would open up accusations of racism. It would give them bad press on almost as bad a level as Blizzard.
    PR nightmare? They don't have to address this and they won't.
    The fact most Japanese players aren't comfortable with people who don't speak Japanese/have higher ping is well known by players around the globe anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre View Post
    I play on both NA and JP DCs and got sick of trying to queue into Fairy prime time, so played entirety of EW on Typhon with max 22 in queue, if there even was one. Honestly can't tell difference in latency between NA and JP, but then again I play PLD, but also had no issue with any of the trials. If you can do it, I'd suggest it (caveat is I'm Japanese so the language thing isn't a big deal - bonus also is no wipes at all on any trials hehe).

    If you just wanna see the MSQ and are rolling in money could even just boost a job and story skip right to EW.
    Mogstation would appreciate people forking 50+ usd out of desperation to do the EW MSQ in an alt during this.
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  4. #24
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    It's 'en masse'; its origin is French... not "on mass".

    These 'revenge' threads are lame; I'll pick on grammar and spelling.

    So, yeah, (sing along) "...the more you know!"
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 12-13-2021 at 09:01 AM.
    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    It's 'en masse'; it's origin is French... not "on mass".

    I don't care that I'm "that guy". These 'revenge' threads are lame anyway so I'll pick on grammar and spelling.

    So, yeah, (sing along) "...the more you know!"
    Thank you for your contribution. I am sure SE is delighted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Thank you for your contribution. I am sure SE is delighted.
    OK, I guess! Yay, and stuff.
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    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

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    Vel Kallor
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    The JP playerbase would be furious over it. I met players who are GLAD Oceania players will supposedly leave "their" servers.
    Thats kind of..mean, when you think about it. We've done well and have tried to get along with everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Literally the title. Since they have so many standard and lower pop servers. That way we can actually play the game without a hours long queue.
    While not unethical, it will ruin the servers' culture and disrupt the community. Yes, I'm saying it straight up. This isn't Just Another NA/EU server, it's an entirely different DC for people of an entirely different culture. It's one thing for new NA or EU players to roll on an NA or EU server; the cultural differences are minor, if existent at all. RL Japanese culture is *very* different than NA or EU and the mass-migration of NA/EU players who have no clue as to how it works and how to successfully navigate it will be disruptive in the extreme.

    I was there at WoW Classic launch, rolled on the RP server because I like to RP, and all the snotrockets re-rolled there since the queues were smaller. Suddenly, the queues were equal to any of the others and what had been a nice RP server turned into a toxic cesspool. It was absolutely horrendous, no exaggeration. The same thing will happen when people who don't understand or care about the culture of JP servers transfer en-masse. The queues won't be any better than NA/EU since thousands more people will be trying to get in and you'll have ruined the cultures of the various servers, ruining the enjoyment of players there who are there *specifically for that sort of server culture*.

    I've seen the culture of Atomos shift over the past year, not for the better, as more and more people come to the game. Are all of these people jerks? In no way. However, even though jerks are in the minority, the sheer volume of people coming in means an equally high number of jerks coming in and disrupting the community.

    Please stay the hell away from JP servers. As satisfying as it may be to be able to play in the short term, it will only cause problems in the long run.
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    Last edited by Illmaeran; 12-14-2021 at 12:16 AM.

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    If your looking to just play through endwalker itself then yeah it would work to use a JP data center, but for anything content wise it would be impractical like raids and such as the latency would be significant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    While not unethical, it will ruin the servers' culture and disrupt the community. Yes, I'm saying it straight up. This isn't Just Another NA/EU server, it's an entirely different DC for people of an entirely different culture. It's one thing for new NA or EU players to roll on an NA or EU server; the cultural differences are minor, if existent at all. RL Japanese culture is *very* different than NA or EU and the mass-migration of NA/EU players who have no clue as to how it works and how to successfully navigate it will be disruptive in the extreme.

    I was there at WoW Classic launch, rolled on the RP server because I like to RP, and all the snotrockets re-rolled there since the queues were smaller. Suddenly, the queues were equal to any of the others and what had been a nice RP server turned into a toxic cesspool. It was absolutely horrendous, no exaggeration. The same thing will happen when people who don't understand or care about the culture of JP servers transfer en-masse. The queues won't be any better than NA/EU since thousands more people will be trying to get in and you'll have ruined the cultures of the various servers, ruining the enjoyment of players there who are there *specifically for that sort of server culture*.

    I've seen the culture of Atomos shift over the past year, not for the better, as more and more people come to the game. Are all of these people jerks? In no way. However, even though jerks are in the minority, the sheer volume of people coming in means an equally high number of jerks coming in and disrupting the community.

    Please stay the hell away from JP servers. As satisfying as it may be to be able to play in the short term, it will only cause problems in the long run.
    Why is the server culture, and their experience worth more than ours? No wonder there is tension when two regions are treated as second class to another.
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