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    Chyro Soulpaw
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Been practicing one of the new ex trials. Simply from a 'feel' perspective, I found it quite noticeable how its harder to keep everyone healthy when its 2 barrier healers vs 1 barrier + 1 'pure'. Yes, if everything goes perfectly in a run and nobody makes mistakes you won't need much or any gcd heals with shields. That's a big 'if' though - there's always some chaos while practicing, and practicing is a big part of learning a fight. Just seems bad that one combination of healers has to struggle more than another combo that fits together better.

    As someone mentioned the shields are mainly on the gcd heals. Funnily the pure healers have more access to offGCD shielding that stacks with other shields than the shield healers. Scholar has no off-gcd shields at all as far as I know, Sage only has haima and panhaima (both on a long 2min cd, but they are quite potent if situational). I'm quite sure that if you combine a pure healers offGCD skill with either shield healer's gcd shielding, you already reach similar or bigger amounts of shielding than if two gcd shield heals stacked together (mainly talking about aoe shielding - in single target due to the crit interaction you can get crazy big shields even on a single shield healer, and would be easy to have that part excempt from stacking). If getting too much shielding is the reason why two shield healers can't have their gcd shields up at the same time - why then can pure healer's shields stack to bigger amounts of shielding?
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    Cain Andleft
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chyro View Post
    Been practicing one of the new ex trials. Simply from a 'feel' perspective, I found it quite noticeable how its harder to keep everyone healthy when its 2 barrier healers vs 1 barrier + 1 'pure'. Yes, if everything goes perfectly in a run and nobody makes mistakes you won't need much or any gcd heals with shields. That's a big 'if' though - there's always some chaos while practicing, and practicing is a big part of learning a fight. Just seems bad that one combination of healers has to struggle more than another combo that fits together better.

    As someone mentioned the shields are mainly on the gcd heals. Funnily the pure healers have more access to offGCD shielding that stacks with other shields than the shield healers. Scholar has no off-gcd shields at all as far as I know, Sage only has haima and panhaima (both on a long 2min cd, but they are quite potent if situational). I'm quite sure that if you combine a pure healers offGCD skill with either shield healer's gcd shielding, you already reach similar or bigger amounts of shielding than if two gcd shield heals stacked together (mainly talking about aoe shielding - in single target due to the crit interaction you can get crazy big shields even on a single shield healer, and would be easy to have that part excempt from stacking). If getting too much shielding is the reason why two shield healers can't have their gcd shields up at the same time - why then can pure healer's shields stack to bigger amounts of shielding?
    Working as intended - Dev team stated they designed high-end fights to have 1 pure healer and 1 barrier healer. Other combinations may work, but they only tested 1 pure healer and 1 barrier healer for clearing high-end fights, which fits into their design choice.

    As for SCH, they have Consolation as oGCD shields.
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