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  1. #11
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackenedTiamat View Post
    is SE aware of the bot being used en masse by people? the one that allows their character to move without the person physically having to do so? I know a handful of players using it, and tbh, at this point, it needs to be addressed.
    The problem is that there isn't a "the bot" for this. Anyone with a gaming keyboard, gaming mouse, or one of the fancier controllers can do it. It's built in to pretty much every gaming input for keyboard and mouse and somewhat for controllers too. Even if SE had anticheat, it wouldn't be able to detect if your keyboard is internally programmed to press a button sometime.
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  2. #12
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    Arazehl's Avatar
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    Julianna Arrisit
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackenedTiamat View Post
    is SE aware of the bot being used en masse by people? the one that allows their character to move without the person physically having to do so? I know a handful of players using it, and tbh, at this point, it needs to be addressed.
    I was thinking the exact same thing but not the same concept. Some are using clickers too. Set it to click your mouse button before the 15 or 20 minutes is up which resets the logout timer. It seems it would be easily detected when it's clicks exactly at the same time each time vs someone who's actually clicking at random times to progress the story.
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  3. #13
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    Kewitt's Avatar
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 100
    There are 100s of ways to abuse the system.
    Its 2 lines of code to press the space bar repeatedly.

    Just be glad it's the rare few doing it.
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  4. #14
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    PredatoryCatgirl's Avatar
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    Khara Relanah
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    The problem is that there isn't a "the bot" for this. Anyone with a gaming keyboard, gaming mouse, or one of the fancier controllers can do it. It's built in to pretty much every gaming input for keyboard and mouse and somewhat for controllers too. Even if SE had anticheat, it wouldn't be able to detect if your keyboard is internally programmed to press a button sometime.
    Literally this. I use an N52 Nostromo for playing this game. Perfectly within TOS to do so. However it also has macro abilities which I don't use in FFXIV. I use it because its a one handed wired keyboard that contours my hand and never drops the signal like the wireless POS I use for normal operations.
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  5. #15
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Build a better bot trap, and they'll just build a better bot.

    That's the major problem with trying to chase down exploits like this, in the end all you really do is inconvenience the actual players more than the botters.
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  6. #16
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    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Drakeos View Post
    Soft cap is ???? and 8pm AEST ???
    There are two types of queues:

    The soft queue is to prevent the lobby server from crashing the game server by allowing too many people to log in at once. When your queue is under 100 and you get in after a minute, that's the soft queue.

    The hard queue is when the world server is full, and you have to wait for space to clear out. Either people logging off, or disconnecting, or traveling to duties. When the queue is in the hundreds or thousands and isn't moving, this is the hard queue.

    4AM Eastern Time is when everyone has logged off to sleep, because that's 1AM Pacific time and 2 AM mountain time and 3 AM central time. EU and JP data centers obviously are different since the time zones are more concentrated than the NA, but by 4AM EST, the queue on the NA data centers is gone.
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  7. #17
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    Dewslam Beefgrab
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    Balmung
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    Just have the game give you a popup asking you for your password or something if you haven't changed area in X number of hours and if they can't do so in time, kick them.
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  8. #18
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    Losara's Avatar
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    Axis Sunsoar
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 98
    As much as I would find it annoying SE should probably put in some form of captcha system or a variant of it into the game during times of high player load so that players can't abuse afk work arounds.
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  9. #19
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    People do log off to sleep. I'm in Australia, and I had a queue of 8 last night. Eight.
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    I give up with you people. Forum community is absolutely unhinged. Imagine joining my alt's FC just to wait for me to come online to harass me lmao.

  10. #20
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    Drakeos Shadowbane
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chie_M View Post
    People do log off to sleep. I'm in Australia, and I had a queue of 8 last night. Eight.
    What time ?
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