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    Zenaku's Avatar
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    Zenaku Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mychael View Post
    I'm sorry, but the fact that you need to be dying (or use convert from ~1 mp just before) to get the full potential of spell seems like a good reason for it not to have a 15 minute recast. I'm kinda with Jin on this one. Anything with a 15 minute recast needs to rape everything. Not just be a highly situational, generally useless move.
    Only Spell that are 1-2 hours should rape something like 15mins is really not that long vs Two hours in FFXI where most of them where OP.
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    Justin Beiber
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Only Spell that are 1-2 hours should rape something like 15mins is really not that long vs Two hours in FFXI where most of them where OP.
    Yeah I said that in my next post. D=

    Given that everything is faster in XIV I think 15 minutes is a pretty long time. This is a once-per-primal/boss (and maybe 2-3 times for a DH) ability, so I don't know if the extra damage that I see in the video will be worth it. Then, we have very little to guess from.. because a dev hit for X on a mob that's weak to thunder, doesn't mean that the real numbers will look anything like it.

    Using the numbers from the video...

    Thunder hit for 761.
    Thundara hit for 1233.
    Burst hit for 1973. 15m CD

    So in Ifrit, say Thunder hits for 250 and Thundara hits for 500 (just some semi-close numbers). We can probably expect ~800-900 extra damage from a Burst,assuming that our HP is around 50% (as the dev's HP was in yellow when they cast Burst). Will that 800 extra damage really make a difference on Ifrit? (just an example) My guess could be way off, though. Just speculation. AM might have perfect accuracy or something. You could also boost it with excruciate, but I'm not sure if it would beat Thundaga (due to the increased crit damage from ->Thundaga combo). Probably would beat it with low HP (or so I'd hope).
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    Last edited by Mychael; 03-03-2012 at 07:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mychael View Post
    Yeah I said that in my next post. D=

    Given that everything is faster in XIV I think 15 minutes is a pretty long time. This is a once-per-primal/boss
    could be twice depending on how long it takes

    I'd recommend using it as soon as you're sure it wont pull hate
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