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    Quote Originally Posted by Haseno View Post
    Bad analogy. A cop pulling over someone and extorting them would be a NAP violation. A victimless crime cannot be a crime.
    A cop pulling someone over is enforcing a law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    A cop pulling someone over is enforcing a law.
    It's a statute, or code enforcement. Not law.

    A crime requires something called corpus delicti. Meaning, someone's life, liberty, or property must be harmed to be a crime.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haseno View Post
    It's a statute, or code enforcement. Not law.

    A crime requires something called corpus delicti. Meaning, someone's life, liberty, or property must be harmed to be a crime.
    That isn't what corpus delicti serves as...
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    That isn't what corpus delicti serves as...
    Corpus Delicti means "the body of a crime consisting of injury or loss." If there is no injury to life, liberty, or property, then no actual crime was committed because loss or injury must occur in order to classify it as a crime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haseno View Post
    Corpus Delicti means "the body of a crime consisting of injury or loss." If there is no injury to life, liberty, or property, then no actual crime was committed because loss or injury must occur in order to classify it as a crime
    Get outta here hippy! GET!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haseno View Post
    Corpus Delicti means "the body of a crime consisting of injury or loss." If there is no injury to life, liberty, or property, then no actual crime was committed because loss or injury must occur in order to classify it as a crime
    That isn't what it means, at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Long queues? If you've been around long enough, educate yourself, you accept these as part of expansion launches. You can't escape from it. .
    hogwash

    Six days, prime time log-in cues are over 4k. Takes an hour plus to get into the game, that IS unacceptable. I have been gaming since 97 and have not seen a company fail to resolve access issues in this manner. They allow free-to-play access over and above paying customers. That will cost them. They can prioritize, but they do not, and that is insulting. Every US server is swamped, and they should have anticipated this based on the stature of the gaming community at this point in time. This failure is comparable with the original release of FFXIV. No excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Get outta here hippy! GET!
    May the power of tree's compel you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoseph View Post
    hogwash

    Six days, prime time log-in cues are over 4k. Takes an hour plus to get into the game, that IS unacceptable. I have been gaming since 97 and have not seen a company fail to resolve access issues in this manner. They allow free-to-play access over and above paying customers. That will cost them. They can prioritize, but they do not, and that is insulting. Every US server is swamped, and they should have anticipated this based on the stature of the gaming community at this point in time. This failure is comparable with the original release of FFXIV. No excuse.
    If you have been gaming since 97 and have never experience a queue for a game. You must have recently came to online gaming. I been gaming since 92 and this is the worst launch I have experience by SE. How ever it is not the worst launch I have experienced.
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    Last edited by IdowhatIwant; 12-10-2021 at 08:59 PM.

  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memoranda View Post
    Fun fact, Shadowlands has been the only retail Warcraft expansion released where it wasn't a complete fucking dumpster fire for every single server.
    That's not totally true either. Bliz does respond quickly to correct launch issues. Played since release (just like FFXIV) and they never had this kind of login problem for six, going seven, days. Not once. IMO this launch is reminiscent of the original release of FFXIV, which was truely the worse in MMO history.
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