It's not "7 Free Days of Playtime". Stop calling it that.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

You probably are able to reconnect to server on your first try thus you are able to reclaim your spot on queue since you are within the 30 sec - 1 min grace period.

Other people are not so lucky since they get multiple 2002 errors when trying to reconnect and when they finally do the grace period has expired.

Also no need to be rude. Just because you are within the minority that has not experienced issues with EA doesn't mean they don't exist or that the millions of people affected by it are doing something wrong.

How am I being Rude?.....I never claimed they didn't exist, Im over here trying to understand it.
Im experiencing the same issues, doing the exact same thing, but getting a different result.
Im trying to make sense of it, nothing more.

[Viirin]

I wasn't going to respond to anything else from you, but I have to for this last point.

If you played 1.0 you remember how bad that game was.

No matter how many issues there were, being dropped while playing was one of them. I know, I have screenshots I saved from years again where the server up and dropped me for no reason. So server stability "WAS" one of the issues from back then, that they needed to address, but instead we were being pacified with free time and other trinkets.

"AND" like now, there were those who defended that games issues all the way up until the shut off the servers.

So "WHY" did they kill a working game and rebuild it from the ground up of there were some saying it was ok, and that the whiners were make a big deal out of nothing? Because those whiners stopped paying for a game and FFXIV 1.0 started losing a lot of money.

So, if enough people call it quits again, I bet they figure out a way to get this queueing issue fixed yesterday.

Just saying..................

I concede that given the 1.0 launch was something like 12 years ago I may have forgotten server stability/queueing issues were a problem amongst the many other problems that make it a completely different situation to this one. But, "being dropped while playing" is not an issue right now. I've played many hours and have had zero disconnects once through the queue and in the game.

If you were whining that they were doing nothing to resolve the problems in 1.0, then it turns out you were obviously wrong, because they did do something about it. Just like they're trying to resolve the current issues (see the emergency maintenance this morning and the coming server maintenance). When I played 1.0 and I didn't like it, I stopped playing. I didn't come back for the legacy campaign. I didn't like it at all, so I didn't play it. But I didn't go and angrily post about it. They made a game that wasn't fun, but they didn't intentionally make a game that wasn't fun just to antagonize you.

No one is saying that there aren't issues - they're saying SE is already doing everything they can reasonably be expected to do given the reality of the situation. If the only solution that makes you happy is "no more queue times", you're simply going to have to wait. There's a myriad of other games out there, play them in the meantime, or play them going forward if you like. Complaining here gains you nothing - they are already doing what they can to resolve the issue.

Oh yeah, and re the additional game time, I am pleased to let you know despite my lack of experience working for a Fortune 500 company, I am correct about how they're doing it.

From Mogstation, please note there are 37 days between 12/4 and 1/10:

[Veridiano02]

Only if you dress in white and wear a fedora!

Adding something you failed to supply which was paid for is not free. If you went to a store and paid for a bag of apples and they didn’t give it to you, then turned around and said “hey have a bag of apples free instead!”

Would you simp for that company?

Actually, it has more sense of you compare with given a bag of rotten apples, you protest and they say "sorry sir, here, have this one for free for compensation" . And yes, I would. I mean, when you pay for something and that something isn't delivered correctly, they technically doesn't have to give you anything. You have signed a contract. You are responsable for what your buying. Most business give this kind of compensation as a common courtesy to make the costumer loyal with a gest like that. And since most gaming companies are quite away of giving courtesy to anyone, and normally they didn't show any courtesy whatsoever for this kind of incidents, the answer to your question is yes, I would. I mean, that doesn't make them saints or anything, but they at least showed the respect and the courtesy I think I deserve as a customer.
And related to the OP, you are wrong. "7 days free as compensation" is a clear, obvious message. It means "we are giving away 7 days free (means you don't have to pay or prove anything to have them) to compensate for those days you have lost". If that compensation is or isn't enough though, that is another thing worth of discussion. But the one who choosed the wrong words is you, not them. The 7 days are free and the message is the right one. However you are not agree with that compensation or it seems not enough to you for the time you've lost, which is your opinion and you do have the right of it, but in that case you should've said "I think this 7 days are not enough".

[Sirbrah]

I concede that given the 1.0 launch was something like 12 years ago I may have forgotten server stability/queueing issues were a problem amongst the many other problems that make it a completely different situation to this one. But, "being dropped while playing" is not an issue right now. I've played many hours and have had zero disconnects once through the queue and in the game.

If you were whining that they were doing nothing to resolve the problems in 1.0, then it turns out you were obviously wrong, because they did do something about it. Just like they're trying to resolve the current issues (see the emergency maintenance this morning and the coming server maintenance). When I played 1.0 and I didn't like it, I stopped playing. I didn't come back for the legacy campaign. I didn't like it at all, so I didn't play it. But I didn't go and angrily post about it. They made a game that wasn't fun, but they didn't intentionally make a game that wasn't fun just to antagonize you.

No one is saying that there aren't issues - they're saying SE is already doing everything they can reasonably be expected to do given the reality of the situation. If the only solution that makes you happy is "no more queue times", you're simply going to have to wait. There's a myriad of other games out there, play them in the meantime, or play them going forward if you like. Complaining here gains you nothing - they are already doing what they can to resolve the issue.

Oh yeah, and re the additional game time, I am pleased to let you know despite my lack of experience working for a Fortune 500 company, I am correct about how they're doing it.

From Mogstation, please note there are 37 days between 12/4 and 1/10:

Your not understanding how adding 7 days of time isn't giving free time lol.

Free time added would be on top of what we already paid for to PLAY the game. Not reimbursed time for not being able to play during that 30 day window.

The apple analogy is confusing. Just compare whats actually in front of you.

IE
I pay for 30 days.
I pay to play for 30 consecutive days.
I get to play for 23 days.
SE gives 7 days. (calls it free time)
I get 30 days to play again.

If i we were given 7 free days.
It would be 30 + 7 days of PLAY time.


I would suggest that the time only starts for when we actually are able to play it. By SE's words its going to be Months! That is quite a bit of time to wait around paying for a sub and already paid for content that we cannot explore.

[Viirin]

Your not understanding how adding 7 days of time isn't giving free time lol.

Free time added would be on top of what we already paid for to PLAY the game. Not reimbursed time for not being able to play during that 30 day window.

The apple analogy is confusing. Just compare whats actually in front of you.

IE
I pay for 30 days.
I pay to play for 30 consecutive days.
I get to play for 23 days.
SE gives 7 days. (calls it free time)
I get 30 days to play again.

If i we were given 7 free days.
It would be 30 + 7 days of PLAY time.


I would suggest that the time only starts for when we actually are able to play it. By SE's words its going to be Months! That is quite a bit of time to wait around paying for a sub and already paid for content that we cannot explore.

My post does not contain the word free. I don't care if you consider it free or not. It is 7 days compensation that you aren't paying any additional fee for because you may not be able to play now. You people just want to piss and moan.

[Ghreystoke]

So You pay for 30 apples. You are supposed to get 1 apple a day for 30 days.

Normally you get handed an an apple. But because so many other people want those apples, you have to travel 2 hours away to pick that apple up. But when you get said apple seller says "Sorry i already sent all the apples back to where you were previously".

Now you have to travel back to get said apple but you get there and the apple is once again gone and you have to travel 2 hours to get said apple. No apple for that day even though you already paid for it

Meanwhile you will Have to work to pay for the things you need. Which means you only have a certain time to get that apple because if you stay out later to travel to get the apple it is now effecting your life in a negative way even though its something you used to enjoy.

But the apple seller tells you "Hey, I tell you what. Even though you have to deal with this every day until everyone gets sick of apples. I will add those apples a day free of charge, because im a stand up guy."

But no compensation for all the traveling you had to endure to "try" to get your apples.

[Viirin]

So You pay for 30 apples. You are supposed to get 1 apple a day for 30 days.

Normally you get handed an an apple. But because so many other people want those apples, you have to travel 2 hours away to pick that apple up. But when you get said apple seller says "Sorry i already sent all the apples back to where you previously".

Now you have to travel back to get said apple but you get there and the apple is once again gone and you have to travel 2 hours to get said apple. No apple for that day even though you already paid for it

Meanwhile you will Have to work to pay for the things you need. Which means you only have a certain time to get that apple because if you stay out latter to travel to get the apple it is now effecting your life in a negative way even though its something you used to enjoy.

But the apple seller tells you "Hey, I tell you what. Even though you have to deal with this every day until everyone gets sick of apples. I will add those apples a day free of charge, because im a stand up guy."

But no compensation for all the traveling you had to endure to "try" to get your apples.

So cancel the effing apple subscription and stop whining about it.

[Ghreystoke]

So cancel the effing apple subscription and stop whining about it.

Well if I did that then every apple company will start selling apples the same way and no one will get apples like they should.

Sounds like you used to like oranges but the company died and now your in apple territory running your mouth.


:Edit: Or it could be that you have been eating the apples so long that you dont care if they are are selling you rotten apples because your life has no meaning and all you have are the apples.

[Floortank]

So You pay for 30 apples. You are supposed to get 1 apple a day for 30 days.

Normally you get handed an an apple. But because so many other people want those apples, you have to travel 2 hours away to pick that apple up. But when you get said apple seller says "Sorry i already sent all the apples back to where you were previously".

Now you have to travel back to get said apple but you get there and the apple is once again gone and you have to travel 2 hours to get said apple. No apple for that day even though you already paid for it

Meanwhile you will Have to work to pay for the things you need. Which means you only have a certain time to get that apple because if you stay out later to travel to get the apple it is now effecting your life in a negative way even though its something you used to enjoy.

But the apple seller tells you "Hey, I tell you what. Even though you have to deal with this every day until everyone gets sick of apples. I will add those apples a day free of charge, because im a stand up guy."

But no compensation for all the traveling you had to endure to "try" to get your apples.

There's a lot of problems with this analogy, because your subscription is not paying for a physical product and you don't have to travel anywhere to get it. You're also comparing it to a resource that has never been in short supply. Who seriously runs out of apples?

The only thing your subscription gets you is the right to enter the server when it's not at full capacity, and the right to wait in line when it is.

There are a lot of reasons to complain about the queues and errors, which everyone is experiencing right now, but your comparison is childish.

[elizeugba]

I've been playing since day 1 of early access, so at least for me is free playtime.