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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Your proposed solution sounds incredibly simple, obvious, and easy to implement.

    So tell us, why hasn't it already been done?
    You're asking the wrong parties, that question needs to be directed to SquareEnix.

    SquareEnix is the one responsible and obligated to provide access to the FFXIV World, Venue & Associated Amenities that customers paid for.

    The only thing Jadedsins & lezard21 are obligated to do is pay their subscription bills on time.

    So get off your ass and go ask SquareEnix if you're really looking for actual answers and not just harassing two paying customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurATDayne View Post
    You're asking the wrong parties, that question needs to be directed to SquareEnix.

    SquareEnix is the one responsible and obligated to provide access to the FFXIV World, Venue & Associated Amenities that customers paid for.

    The only thing Jadedsins & lezard21 are obligated to do is pay their subscription bills on time.

    So get off your ass and go ask SquareEnix if you're really looking for actual answers and not just harassing two paying customers.
    I'm not asking to get an answer. I'm asking to get people to apply some critical thinking and a dash of logic.

    It's simple. Either you choose to believe they're making the effort they can with the tools they have available, or you choose to believe they're just sitting on their asses.

    Only one of those options makes any sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    I'm not asking to get an answer. I'm asking to get people to apply some critical thinking and a dash of logic.
    Critical thinking and a dash of logic would lead to conclusion that they have known for years, long before the "shortage" and covid, that they need to upgrade and expand the servers. So, I will turn the question back to you: Why haven't they?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    It's simple. Either you choose to believe they're making the effort they can with the tools they have available, or you choose to believe they're just sitting on their asses.

    Only one of those options makes any sense.
    Except there's a third option that you're not considering. As I pointed out above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    Critical thinking and a dash of logic would lead to conclusion that they have known for years, long before the "shortage" and covid, that they need to upgrade and expand the servers. So, I will turn the question back to you: Why haven't they?
    This is just plain willful ignorance, considering they in fact have been upgrading and expanding servers for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    This is just plain willful ignorance, considering they in fact have been upgrading and expanding servers for years.
    Ah yes, indirect gaslighting accompanied by projection.
    Nowhere have I, in any way, said nor implied that they have not improved their servers over the years. You know this and yet you choose to gaslight with it anyway. Which just shows your accusation of "willful ignorance" is nothing more than projection.

    But hey, why use critical thinking and logic when you can just gaslight and project, right? It's not like there's years of data that we can look at to see their improvements have been falling behind the need. Oh wait, there is... Well, I suppose only the "willfully ignorant" wouldn't know about such things, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    Nowhere have I, in any way, said nor implied that they have not improved their servers over the years.
    Your claim:

    "They have known for years... that they need to upgrade and expand their servers."

    The reality:

    They, in fact, have been doing exactly that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    Ah yes, indirect gaslighting accompanied by projection.
    Nowhere have I, in any way, said nor implied that they have not improved their servers over the years. You know this and yet you choose to gaslight with it anyway. Which just shows your accusation of "willful ignorance" is nothing more than projection.

    But hey, why use critical thinking and logic when you can just gaslight and project, right? It's not like there's years of data that we can look at to see their improvements have been falling behind the need. Oh wait, there is... Well, I suppose only the "willfully ignorant" wouldn't know about such things, huh?
    I love it when someone learns a new word and just can't stop misusing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    I'm not asking to get an answer. I'm asking to get people to apply some critical thinking and a dash of logic.

    It's simple. Either you choose to believe they're making the effort they can with the tools they have available, or you choose to believe they're just sitting on their asses.

    Only one of those options makes any sense.
    No, one of the options that makes sense (that you didn't list)
    is that they've collected their sub-money and pre-order money, and decided that the community's grief was a price they were willing to pay, as opposed to buying server equipment (a premium, which they've said they've "tried paying more" but never how much more) or renting server equipment where it already exists, since it most certainly already does as it is not manufactured by SE, therefore it is not unique. Server equipment later on in the expansion's release they would likely not need, as content-lulls obviously have that effect. They can come up with excuses as to why they didn't want to, like "security," but the bottom line is they simply did not try. They didn't make an attempt. They decided that doing nothing was the most financially viable and best option, because they didn't do anything. They didn't go the extra mile.

    Shadowbringers predated the pandemic and supply chain problems. It predated, as far as I'm aware, cryptocurrency and every conceivable issue that would prevent them from paying a "normal" price for server hardware. If it was "just as bad every launch lol" then they could have considered it, and every expansion they've released, and other MMO expansion releases a learning experience and purchased the self-same equipment and maintained it before that; but they didn't want to. Because it costs money. Just like now. It's always money. FFXIV is the most if not one of the most profitable projects they have. Do you really think the amount of money they put back into the game is proportionate to how much they make on it? After all the corner cutting, recolored assets, and servers they don't have?

    I think the hard part to get through to people is that as far as I'm aware, they are not obligated to be "transparent." They don't have to make you privy to their financial decisions. Why haven't you even considered this a PR strategy or something? I don't even think the creative team, the "faces" behind these posts, even Yoshi P. are necessarily even the ones who made those financial decisions. It was probably SE. They probably know people like you trust him. You guys treat him like a rock star. I'm not demonizing him, but how can you deny the possibility he's being used to make it look less bad?

    Like, listen, I like this game a lot, but its management has very obvious flaws. Be honest. There are so many obvious facets to improve it's almost comical. Even saving your login credentials. Christ.
    The above is why whenever I hear people complain, I just tell them to get a refund. Maybe if they lose the money they think they've gotten by cutting those corners, they'll feel less inclined to do that. Maybe they'll go rent servers so people can play; players will stop witch-hunting each other and whining about queues.
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 12-08-2021 at 03:39 PM.
    yeah, i'll give him the wrap. but foist, i gotta wrap this FISH.

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