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    correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't it more or less been established that the echo and the blessing of light are more or less the same thing? You can't have one without the other (unless you're an ascian), because to ACTIVATE the echo you have to be exposed to a meteor shower that wakes up your previous cycle of incarnations memory of the ancient world's end of days.

    Which in turn opens you up to hearing the "HEAR! THINK! FEEL!" of Hydaelen that she uses to contact you.

    I remember it specifically being a fairly big deal that Hydaelen wasn't personally contacting every single Echo-bearer but just had a message running on repeat all the time to catch literally anybody who awoke their echo, implying that she never -actually- gave her blessing of light.

    Question? Did we have any echo-memory events during the time period where the blessing of light was being suppressed by Midgardsomr? I think we had a few involving lady ice heart but I'm not -positive-.

    Cause if we didn't have any echo-visions during that entire period... it'd kinda underline the idea that the echo and the blessing of light where two names for essentially the same thing, only with different wave lengths for different folks. Asskicking being one of them, and Visions of the future, reading people's emotions, perfect communication being another.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ystal-of-Light

    Also brings this up, even Krile has the blessing of light.

    In fact, if we want to get technical, I think the only people who don't have 'the blessing of light' are the Ascians (who are explicitly fighting against Hydalaen), and the Hypertuned (who have an artificial echo in the first place), and then there's the Sahagin, who didn't have the blessing of light of course, but then, was that sahagin tempered BEFORE he activated his own echo? Or that the Sahagin didn't just claim that he doesn't have the blessing of light cause he worships Leviathan not hydaelen? It feels like the Echo is the universal term, and the Blessing of Light is used as a term for those who side with Hydaelen's goals specifically.

    And I'm not actually convinced that the blessing of the light is hydalaen doing jack through you, or empowering you. If anything, Hydaelen has -one- power, and that is sundering things. She can break stuff down, weaken it by dividing it, which really tracks with what she does.

    Even the -buff- that empowers us in dungeons is called 'the echo' and has been since the earliest days of the game, but what it -does- sounds a lot more like what you've described as the blessing of light. If anything, the Echo is literally you remembering how to do shit as the ancients did, back in Amurot. Your amazing feats are you remembering how to reality warp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowclasper View Post
    Question? Did we have any echo-memory events during the time period where the blessing of light was being suppressed by Midgardsomr? I think we had a few involving lady ice heart but I'm not -positive-.

    Cause if we didn't have any echo-visions during that entire period... it'd kinda underline the idea that the echo and the blessing of light where two names for essentially the same thing, only with different wave lengths for different folks. Asskicking being one of them, and Visions of the future, reading people's emotions, perfect communication being another.
    We did, seeing the thing that happened with the founders of the high houses and the Eyes, and Hraesvelgr giving Nidhogg his eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atheistcanuck View Post
    We did, seeing the thing that happened with the founders of the high houses and the Eyes, and Hraesvelgr giving Nidhogg his eye.
    Also we could still understand all speech which is a power granted by the echo.
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