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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strongfat900 View Post
    Well, there ya go. I guess that they were spending much of their time trying to get the coding right or something as well as getting the launch of patch 6.0 ready. Hopefully, we'll get more hairstyles in the future. I'm enjoying the male viera very much.
    I'm glad you're enjoying male Viera

    Hopefully this time they will actually keep releasing hairstyles on a regular basis for both like they said they would in Shadowbringers, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Where in the patch notes did you read that particular promise? Or, for that matter, in which marketing campaign was it a major talking point? Who promised it, and when?

    All I've seen and read is information about there being quite a large number of hairstyles for Male Viera at launch. And there are.
    I said nothing about a promise. But they have already given you a link with Yoshida himself telling us about the lack of restrictions for MViera. If that were the case, why can't I use every hairstyle I have unlocked like I can with every other race? Anyhow, I don't even care, by now we shouldn't even be talking about this. It shouldn't even be an issue. Solve it once and for all and stop lying about limitations. To be honest what I hate the most about all this situation is having been lied to by Yoshida but to top it all, knowing that no one will care because it's him, who is never wrong. And this game is never wrong.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranhansha View Post
    I said nothing about a promise. But they have already given you a link with Yoshida himself telling us about the lack of restrictions for MViera.
    Unless it was in the patch notes, or specifically called out during a marketing campaign (and the video you mentioned has already been commented on here, complete with an interpretation of those "large number of hairstyles for Male Viera at launch"), SE has lied about nothing. Yet you accused them of lies.

    You've already confirmed you don't care, so why make such a bald-faced statement in the first place? You don't get 'points' on the forums for stuff like that.
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    I am disappointed myself in the 6 hairstyles we got for female Viera. Not mad, just disappointed. I am not a fan of short hair to begin with. I was really hoping for the Gyr Abanian braid hairstyle, I personally thought it would e perfect for viera, already being sort of poofy? I do trust that they will slowly dribble the other hairstyles to us, and hopefully we get any NEW ones from the get go.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Unless it was in the patch notes, or specifically called out during a marketing campaign (and the video you mentioned has already been commented on here, complete with an interpretation of those "large number of hairstyles for Male Viera at launch"), SE has lied about nothing. Yet you accused them of lies.

    You've already confirmed you don't care, so why make such a bald-faced statement in the first place? You don't get 'points' on the forums for stuff like that.
    Well, I think I've actually confirmed I do really care being lied to, it's kind ofthe opposite, don't you think. Maybe you don't care because you don't play a MViera or have had to deal with 2 years of bad excuses for FVieras and Hrothgars.
    I'm not worried about points in the forums. Who cares about that? (well, apparently, you) I care about the game, my character and the honesty of the developers, which I find lacking in this respect. It was said by the director himself and they did not deliver so, yes, it was a lie. Stop using the notes as an excuse. As far as I'm concerned I have nothing else to discuss with you. We can't seem to agree since I don't take it lightly beeing lied to. Enjoy your expansion, have a nice day and get lots of forum points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    I'm glad you're enjoying male Viera

    Hopefully this time they will actually keep releasing hairstyles on a regular basis for both like they said they would in Shadowbringers, but I'll believe it when I see it.
    Well, I would say that the reason why they've added only 1 in-game hairstyle, 1 from mogstation and several from unlockables for each gender is simply to test them out or something. I remember them saying that the reason why they couldn't add any is due to the coding for both Viera and Hrothgar which they stated earlier that they fixed it, and that the male Viera wouldn't have any problems like what the female Viera and Hrothgar had suffered. The fact that they've added some hairstyles for both genders and that the male viera isn't locked behind the expansion alone makes me happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranhansha View Post
    Well, I think I've actually confirmed I do really care being lied to, it's kind ofthe opposite, don't you think. Maybe you don't care because you don't play a MViera or have had to deal with 2 years of bad excuses for FVieras and Hrothgars.
    I'm not worried about points in the forums. Who cares about that? (well, apparently, you) I care about the game, my character and the honesty of the developers, which I find lacking in this respect. It was said by the director himself and they did not deliver so, yes, it was a lie. Stop using the notes as an excuse. As far as I'm concerned I have nothing else to discuss with you. We can't seem to agree since I don't take it lightly beeing lied to. Enjoy your expansion, have a nice day and get lots of forum points.
    You're more than welcome to go play other MMO games. DPZ2 already had clarified it for you. Unless you're working at SE to know the inner-workings on how FFXIV and it's engine works for SE in not delivering both races fully optimized, you have no right to whine about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strongfat900 View Post
    Well, I would say that the reason why they've added only 1 in-game hairstyle, 1 from mogstation and several from unlockables for each gender is simply to test them out or something.
    I mean... They could've chose hairstyles that are more in demand, their selection felt a bit random... I still have yet to see a Viera wear any of the new hairstyles.

    Modern Aesthetics: Both ways and form and function (I assume) would've been an easy choice due to being shorter and most likely more popular. I feel sceptical because I have this feeling that we're going to be waiting for a while until we receive more.
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    Square Enix have extorted money from Viera and Hrothgar's limitations, but from the outside looking in it seems barely any of that money is invested back into the limited races. How much money have they made from players
    fantasia'ing to and from the limited races? We want more race-exclusive hair.
    We want them improved, and we want it done within a reasonable time.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strongfat900 View Post
    You're more than welcome to go play other MMO games. DPZ2 already had clarified it for you. Unless you're working at SE to know the inner-workings on how FFXIV and it's engine works for SE in not delivering both races fully optimized, you have no right to whine about.
    No, thanks, but you're more than welcome to ignore me. Unless you're working at SE to know the inner-workings on how FFXIV and it's engine works for SE in not delivering both races fully optimized, you have no right to patronise me about it. No need for anyone to tell me what to play. I've also clarified him. If you don't care about what I had to say about it, as I said, ignore it. It's simple, but you decided to be a pebble in my shoe and tell me I wasn't good enough for your mighty game and developers. So much for best community. Have a good day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranhansha View Post
    Well, I think I've actually confirmed I do really care being lied to, it's kind ofthe opposite, don't you think. Maybe you don't care because you don't play a MViera or have had to deal with 2 years of bad excuses for FVieras and Hrothgars.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranhansha View Post
    Anyhow, I don't even care, by now we shouldn't even be talking about this. It shouldn't even be an issue. Solve it once and for all and stop lying about limitations.
    "I don't even care", "I do really care" -- which is it?

    To what specific lie do you keep referring? All I've read is <mumble-mumble-limitations-bad-excuses-mumble-mumble>.

    Name. Dates. Links to specific lies.

    And yes, I have two male Viera alts as of yesterday morning, and the only hairstyle I got for them pre-Endwalker doesn't work. Then again, I was given no guarantee by the developers that they would work.

    I dislike it when someone accuses another of lying, when what they really mean is that they're disappointed that what they hoped to see, based on no promises made by SE, wasn't there. Female Hrothgar and Male Viera come to mind.
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