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  1. #241
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    I'm not enjoying how Gemshine and Precious Brilliance work. Why not just replace the buttons for the Outburst / Ruin line of spells when you're attuned to a particular element the same way bahamat and phoenix work. Maybe there's something I'm missing. I don't see a reason to use Outburst/Ruin line while attuned to an element.
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  2. #242
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi View Post
    I'm not enjoying how Gemshine and Precious Brilliance work. Why not just replace the buttons for the Outburst / Ruin line of spells when you're attuned to a particular element the same way bahamat and phoenix work. Maybe there's something I'm missing. I don't see a reason to use Outburst/Ruin line while attuned to an element.
    The only use I could think of not combining them is if you mess up and go ifrit at a bad time and don't want to lose gcds.
    (also to give the illusion that smn has more going on than it really does)
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  3. #243
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    The only use I could think of not combining them is if you mess up and go ifrit at a bad time and don't want to lose gcds.
    (also to give the illusion that smn has more going on than it really does)
    Yeah. I macro'ed them up. That seems fine aside from not having the right icons all the time. It just seem like a clunky way to do it. It's two extra keybindings for no interesting choices.

    Beyond that I don't miss the dots but I do miss having two bahmaut/phoenix enkindles. Still figuring it all out.
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  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi View Post
    I'm not enjoying how Gemshine and Precious Brilliance work. Why not just replace the buttons for the Outburst / Ruin line of spells when you're attuned to a particular element the same way bahamat and phoenix work. Maybe there's something I'm missing. I don't see a reason to use Outburst/Ruin line while attuned to an element.
    Outburst/Tri-disaster > Instant AoE > Mountain Buster is the reason. Same with Garuda.

    Otherwise I'd say the same and just consolidate into one button.
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  5. #245
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Outburst/Tri-disaster > Instant AoE > Mountain Buster is the reason. Same with Garuda.

    Otherwise I'd say the same and just consolidate into one button.
    Good point. Hrmm. I really just need to rethink my keybindings from the ground up. It's hard though with so much muscle memory built up.
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  6. #246
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi View Post
    I'm not enjoying how Gemshine and Precious Brilliance work. Why not just replace the buttons for the Outburst / Ruin line of spells when you're attuned to a particular element the same way bahamat and phoenix work. Maybe there's something I'm missing. I don't see a reason to use Outburst/Ruin line while attuned to an element.
    yeah i was wondering the same but its a way to keep the charges
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  7. #247
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    Jhayden Cofield
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    so far i do like it. it took me a minute to come up with a fun opener but i got it now and i think its cool.
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  8. #248
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    Mishlia Corvale
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    The new Summoner is nice. I feel like i'm doing the summon part and getting benefits for doing so. It feels really good like i'm able to be more mobile at times. Tho i haven't been able to play much more due to the queue's being so high. Ahh well it was my mistake for logging out to get food.
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  9. #249
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    I am personally happy with new summoner. being a dot mage was never fulfilling. your pets where ugly had long list of problems. new fresh looking summoner is how summoner is so post to be.

    million dollar jeopardy question. what is a summoner?

    A. Summons someone who summons things help them fight
    B. Warlock clone from world of warcraft. (ew) with mind you very ugly pets

    If anyone has paid attention to this franchises long list of summons, party member summoners then you know answer is A

    and no those chicken nugget floating things are not summons. they remade summoner. so later they can summon Shiva and Leviathan even Ramah. yay a mage can utilize all elements in the game

    over all feel of summoner so much better then old. summoner has smaller and yet more awesome rotation. let me remind you all current summoner rotation is in fact quote massive. being biggiest in game 35-40 button rotation. new one is solid. 22 button rotation making job feel good is right direction.

    Besides Bio/Maisma are more nercomancer spells or some other cast they bring in thats more dedicated to dots or just buff bard to be dots dps of the whole game
    mmmm... chicken nuggies.
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  10. #250
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    Laphicet Melophicet
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    Mateus
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi View Post
    I'm not enjoying how Gemshine and Precious Brilliance work. Why not just replace the buttons for the Outburst / Ruin line of spells when you're attuned to a particular element the same way bahamat and phoenix work. Maybe there's something I'm missing. I don't see a reason to use Outburst/Ruin line while attuned to an element.
    Because if they actually properly compacted this class and didn't bloat out the hotbar it would literally be a one-hotbar job, not including role actions.

    Elemental summons could be reduced to one button, Carby shield and not-devotion could be merged into one button because there's no reason to not use them around the same time, ruin IV could just replace ruin III for a GCD (or just not exist at all with how useless the skill is), Energy drain could be trait upgraded to siphon and have AOE damage falloff, same AOE damage falloff trait upgrade for Fester+painflare, Astral flow could just be merged into the summon GCD itself, and as you said, the gemshines could become replacers for outburst and ruin. That's 13 buttons that could be merged down to 6, or 5.

    Tanks have more buttons we commonly press than this. FFS they should've done that and replaced all the missing hotbar space with heal OGCDs, that way we could finally get the healer we've all been asking for, too.
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    Last edited by Laphicet; 12-04-2021 at 11:54 AM.

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