New summoner is unacceptable

[SamSmoot]

Hmm, maybe I'll try this instead of Ninja. I'm getting tired of it's excessive complexity. I just want to mash 1-2 buttons A-B-A-B, etc.

[Ronduwil]

I sincerely hope Square Enix does not think this is the way to go for all future jobs. This is embarrassingly unacceptable even from a casual perspective.

I personally like variety in the jobs. It's nice for an old guy like me whose reflexes are far from what they once were when there are one-hotbar jobs. We don't all want two dozen buttons to manage at once. I think it would be great going forward if they continued to provide two-dozen button jobs for those who want them, but it's also nice that they're providing simpler jobs for those of us who don't. I seriously doubt that this will be the template for all jobs going forward, but I suspect that it will be the template for a subset of jobs.

[Laphicet]

I much prefer it, I do hope that in next expac they add a little more complexity in but seeing as this rework has changed so much already its not a bad base to start with imo

SB MCH mains laugh at you and Healer mains continue to laugh at you and anyone who thinks this. It's not going to happen, once that complexity is gone it's gone for good with this dev team and their constant focus on appealing to bottom of the barrel players.

[Rin_Kuroi]

I don't know about unacceptable. Being simpler isn't inherently bad imo. Complexity is a two-way street. The job being fun and effective matters more to me.

Having said that I'm not sold on it yet. I certainly need more time with the changes but something just feels off. Something about the button replacements for Precious Gemshine/Brilliance and Ruin/Outburst along with the different cast/recast timers for all those related spells.

I think I'm going to make a macro that will cast Gemshine initially then fall back to Ruin. Same thing for Precious Brilliance and Outburst. If the class is going to go so heavy into button replacement why not go the extra step for these two? But when Bahamut/Phoenix are summoned the button replacement applies to Ruin/Outburst and not Gemshine/Precious Brilliance.

What reason is there to cast Ruin III when an egi has been summoned ie attuned to an element. Wouldn't you always want to cast Gemshine? So why not do the button replacement for those spells too?

There's something I'm missing.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

[ryouma17]

i like it, the job feels alot more active now, its no longer just dot em all up ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin deathflare ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin dot bahamut ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin dot phoenix ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin, was such a boring job now its much more active constantly summoning your different egi's and using their abilitys

There is virtually no fail state either.

so its just like dancer now, i dont see how thats a badthing

[HyperSMB]

Not everything needs 50 systems, buttons or timers to track. Having variety in COMPLEXITY is important. The same way as having a variety in DIFFICULTY of encounters needs to be varied.

I am glad new SMN is the way it is.

[abesut]

Love it better now than the dot-mage with pseudopets. This version at least stay true to what the summoner have always been about.

[Saviin]

i like it, the job feels alot more active now, its no longer just dot em all up ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin deathflare ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin dot bahamut ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin dot phoenix ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin, was such a boring job now its much more active constantly summoning your different egi's and using their abilitys





so its just like dancer now, i dont see how thats a badthing

Wait, what abilities? You press the red, yellow or green button when you got the gem, they pop out, do an auto ability attack, then leave and you spam ruin again. To use your example (up until level 70): Get Aetherflow,press the pretty gem button, spam elemental ruin until out of charges, then regular ruin until the timer lets you summon a red/yellow/green; spam elemental ruin/outburst until out of charges, press next gem button, repeat spam elemental ruin/outburst. Every 120 seconds you can get two charges of aetherflow to do two festers (don't you feel special!), back to spamming the types of ruin.

Yeah, active beyond ruin and applying dots....sure. You do you, though.

[JohncarterIx]

dont feel bad was on trail got to 60 tranferd charter to new game lost 3 weeks mounts ect got start over at lvl 1 again with nothing = im done and why need the new game with no charters = done i played wow i have 77 charters there all max but dont like what happend there so left